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Old 09-03-2013, 02:50 PM
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Default 1947 Tip Top

Greetings all, I was wondering how the 1947 Tip Top compare to the 1947 Bond Bread set? Are both sets equal in scarcity and I know Berra appears in the 1947 Bond set also. I would think either card would be considered the Rookie.
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Greetings all, I was wondering how the 1947 Tip Top compare to the 1947 Bond Bread set? Are both sets equal in scarcity and I know Berra appears in the 1947 Bond set also. I would think either card would be considered the Rookie.
Thanks,
Richard

I don't know about scarcity comparisons, but definitely the Bonds would get rookie consideration as well. However, that is a very tricky issue, that has had a handful of discussions on this board, especially in regards to the square corner ones, and their possible(probable) '49 release and speculated reprintings. The warehouse find in the 80's(?) raised numerous questions.... Only the round cornered ones, I believe, had a '47 release. Everything else was probably later..

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=92743

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I agree w/ all if David's comments, as well as Phil's rankings on scarcity for the Tip Top Breads.

Tip Tops are MUCH scarcer than the Bond Bread cards, mostly because of the "find" of Bond Breads that David mentioned. Condition is usually poor to VG on Tip Tops, so don't expect high quality examples to show up. If its > EX shape, there's a good chance it's a reprint. I know a few reprints are floating around out there.
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Old 09-03-2013, 06:01 PM
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Default Not so fast guys......let's consider the 1947 BOND BREAD set.

The 1947 BOND BREAD was issued quite early in 1947. I know this, as this set of 48 cards were my first BB cards that I collected when I was 9 years old.

The original 1947 ROUNDED cards are not that easy to find. The SQUARE versions are not that scarce; however, they were not issued in 1947.

There are two versions of the SQUARE issue. There was a redo of the 1947 cards in 1949 and these cards were packaged in 4 packs of 12 cards....
each of which were sold at novelty shops.

The David Festberg find in the early 1980's are reprints of only 24 of the 48 cards. The date of these 24 cards is a mystery.



Here are some of the more notable "rookie" cards in the original 1947 BOND BREAD set............





I even still have an original Bond Bread loaf wrapper






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Old 09-03-2013, 06:17 PM
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Exactly, Ted. Thanks for joining the discussion. I've always enjoyed your threads and insights on the bond breads. Some players will have multiple "true rookies". I wasn't discrediting the 47 bonds, just pointing out that the square cornered ones are a whole different beast.

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Old 09-03-2013, 06:31 PM
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David

You re absolutely correct.

These BOND BREAD issues are quite confusing to most, who are not as old as me to have collecting them 66 years ago.


Furthermore, I can attest to the fact that the 1949 LEAF BB cards are exclusively a 1949 issue.

The 1949 LEAF Paige preceded the 1949 BOWMAN Paige. Leaf issued their 2nd series cards (Paige included) in the Summer of '49.
This scarce series was Short-Printed and its distribution was limited to Boston, Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio.

While BOWMAN issued their last series of Hi #s (Paige included) in the Fall of '49.

I welcome any more questions on these 3 sets.


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Old 09-03-2013, 06:54 PM
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Awesome once again Ted. Now I'm gonna have a little "technical" fun with the Beckett modern rookie designation rules.

Now, given that the 2nd series of '49 Leaf was only released in 4 states, it would technically then, not be a "Major(or National) Release", but rather a "regional release" that is only an extension of a national release. Thus, it's not officially deserving of RC designation. Making the '49 Bowman of Paige, technically, his ONLY official RC(per Beckett rules)..

Sorry, just in an odd mood, and having a goofy moment.

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