OT: An all time line up just for fun, whos yours?

[BengoughingForAwhile]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

lol totally agree, jeter isn't even the best ss of the last 20 years let alone all time.

Really? Not saying Jeter is better than Wagner, but Jeter has 400 more lifetime hits than your buddy A-Roid, a 12 point higher career batting average, more Gold Gloves, and hasn't done steroids (I think). If A-Roid was such a great shortstop why has he been a 3rd Baseman for the last 10 years???

[ejharrington]

This would be my personal Dream Team with my favorites throughout history. The team would wear the 1908 Red Sox uniforms:

Starting Lineup
1. Ichiro Suzuki - OF
2. Dustin Pedroia - 2B
3. Keith Hernandez - 1B
4. Manny Ramirez - OF
5. Dave Kingman - DH
6. Jimmy Collins - 3B
7. Gary Carter – C
8. Harry Hooper - OF
9. Rick Burleson - SS

Rotation
Cy Young – SP
Babe Ruth – SP (Red Sox version)
Pedro Martinez – SP
Curt Schilling - SP
Eddie Cicotte – SP

Long Relievers
Charlie Hough – RP
Candy Cummings – RP

Closer
Hoyt Wilhelm – CL

Utility Men
Tommy McCarthy – OF, 2B, SS, 3B
King Kelly – C, OF, 3B, 2B, SS, 1B

Key Reserves
Tris Speaker - OF
Steve Balboni – 1B
Ross Barnes – 2B
Rob Deer - OF
Buddy Bell – 3B

Pinch Hitters
Rusty Staub – PH (when I need a hit)
Eddie Gaedel – PH (when I need a walk)

Manager
Jake Stahl

Reserves When 40 Man Roster is Effective
Jerry Remy – 2B
Hobe Ferris – 2B
Mike Squires – 1B
Bill Carrigan – C
Mickey Tettleton – C
David Ortiz – DH
Tim Wakefield – SP
“Smoky” Joe Wood – SP
“Old Hoss” Radbourne – SP
Jacoby Ellsbury – OF
Darryl Motley – OF
Pete Gray – OF
Coco Crisp – OF
Jose Cruz - OF
Toby Harrah – 3B

[Moonlight Graham]

I picked Derek Jeter as my shortstop for one reason-he's a winner. He doesn't have to be the greatest shortstop in history to make my all-time team. At least that's the way I read the original post.

[ZenPop]

Originally Posted by ejharrington

This would be my personal Dream Team with my favorites throughout history. The team would wear the 1908 Red Sox uniforms:

Starting Lineup
1. Ichiro Suzuki - OF
2. Dustin Pedroia - 2B
3. Keith Hernandez - 1B
4. Manny Ramirez - OF
5. Dave Kingman - DH
6. Jimmy Collins - 3B
7. Gary Carter – C
8. Harry Hooper - OF
9. Rick Burleson - SS

Rotation
Cy Young – SP
Babe Ruth – SP (Red Sox version)
Pedro Martinez – SP
Curt Schilling - SP
Eddie Cicotte – SP

Long Relievers
Charlie Hough – RP
Candy Cummings – RP

Closer
Hoyt Wilhelm – CL

Utility Men
Tommy McCarthy – OF, 2B, SS, 3B
King Kelly – C, OF, 3B, 2B, SS, 1B

Key Reserves
Tris Speaker - OF
Steve Balboni – 1B
Ross Barnes – 2B
Rob Deer - OF
Buddy Bell – 3B

Pinch Hitters
Rusty Staub – PH (when I need a hit)
Eddie Gaedel – PH (when I need a walk)

Manager
Jake Stahl

Reserves When 40 Man Roster is Effective
Jerry Remy – 2B
Hobe Ferris – 2B
Mike Squires – 1B
Bill Carrigan – C
Mickey Tettleton – C
David Ortiz – DH
Tim Wakefield – SP
“Smoky” Joe Wood – SP
“Old Hoss” Radbourne – SP
Jacoby Ellsbury – OF
Darryl Motley – OF
Pete Gray – OF
Coco Crisp – OF
Jose Cruz - OF
Toby Harrah – 3B

Rob Deer????!!!!!! ACCKKK!!!! (yeah... he could mash, though.)

[RCMcKenzie]

This is a fun topic, and I have been thinking about it for the last couple of days. Here is who I would run on the field vs. your squads...

Henderson Lf
Rose 3b
Aaron 1b
Ruth Rf
Speaker Cf
Lajoie 2b
Smith (Geo) ss
Berra C
Young SP
Doug Jones RP

[ejharrington]

LOL; my man Deer gives me some situational right handed power vs. lefties and late inning D if needed!!!

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by Cubs1969

Really? Not saying Jeter is better than Wagner, but Jeter has 400 more lifetime hits than your buddy A-Roid, a 12 point higher career batting average, more Gold Gloves, and hasn't done steroids (I think). If A-Roid was such a great shortstop why has he been a 3rd Baseman for the last 10 years???

Because the Yankees were afraid of offending Jeter when they acquired A-Rod? C'mon, this isn't even a discussion. Jeter has a higher batting average but A-Rod has a higher OBP and has won a batting title. Jeter has 400 more hits but A-Rod has 400 more homers. Jeter has more Gold Gloves than A-Rod but didn't start winning any until A-Rod stopped playing short - and has consistently been ranked as the worst defensive shortstop in the majors, or among them, while A-Rod was a top-rated defensive shortstop.

If you wanna knock A-Rod for steroids, go ahead. If you wanna knock him for being a douche, go ahead. But if we go by just what each guy did on the field as a shortstop, there is no way, no how, that Jeter was a superior shortstop compared to Alex. None.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Because the Yankees were afraid of offending Jeter when they acquired A-Rod? C'mon, this isn't even a discussion. Jeter has a higher batting average but A-Rod has a higher OBP and has won a batting title. Jeter has 400 more hits but A-Rod has 400 more homers. Jeter has more Gold Gloves than A-Rod but didn't start winning any until A-Rod stopped playing short - and has consistently been ranked as the worst defensive shortstop in the majors, or among them, while A-Rod was a top-rated defensive shortstop.

If you wanna knock A-Rod for steroids, go ahead. If you wanna knock him for being a douche, go ahead. But if we go by just what each guy did on the field as a shortstop, there is no way, no how, that Jeter was a superior shortstop compared to Alex. None.

I will give you the defense. There is no way Arod is even close to the same level as Jeter on offense. In the top of the 8th inning with a 6 run lead there is no better hitter than Arod. The guy would hit moon shot homers in that situation. Get a bottom of the 9th with a runner on 2nd with 2 outs in a tie game and Arod could not hit water if he fell out of a boat. In that same bottom of the 9th situation Jeter gets the game winning hit. To me it matters when all that offense actually happens.

[Tabe]

Late and close, ARod and Jeter have basically the same stats. 9th inning, Arod is better than Jeter.

Try again.

[cyseymour]

CF Willie Mays
LF Ted Williams
2B Rogers Hornsby
RF Babe Ruth
1B Lou Gehrig
3B Mike Schmidt
SS Honus Wagner
C Josh Gibson
P Walter Johnson

I'd choose Mays over Cobb because although Cobb was a marginally better hitter, he was only average in the field, while Mays was superior. That more than makes up the difference.