What would your fantasy press photo find be?????

71buc · #1 09-17-2013, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by billyb

Thanks Mike, but it seems that you have put those two Conlon photos up there as incomparable, thus, no photo could compare, no matter what other photographer took the photo, And no other photo of same content, could be a work of art also.
So I assume, there is no other room near the top with the iconic works of art.
By the way, I agree, the photo you provided is superior.

Incomparable? No. Exemplars of Conlon? Absolutely. Van Gogh's Starry Night is both an exemplar of his work and an iconic image. However, it is not an incomparable work of art. I really like Lances definition of what constitutes an iconic image. When considering the three images you presented as the icons of baseball photography, I believe there are many more attractive specimens of baseball photography as art. There are actually a few in the current RMY auction that I think are much more pleasing artistically. That being said I believe there is much room at the top with the three iconic images you discussed initially.

Forever Young · #2 09-17-2013, 01:35 PM

I would want one of two fantasy photos:

1) A portrait with the same feel as my Gehrig by bain(pictured below) of Ruth at St. Marys in his playground uni.

or

2) an shot of Ruth at the plate from behind the pitching mound waiting for a pitch in the St Mary's playground with the opposing catcher.. pitcher.. "ump(whatever kid was doing that maybe a nun??-haha)" by Charles Conlon.

billyb · #3 09-17-2013, 01:39 PM

Mike,
I agree that there are more works of art regarding baseball photos, I listed the three with an etc... as too many to list. I too believe there is room at the top regarding different content within the photo.
My question was photos of same, or similar content. For example, I believe it was Lance who posted, one of his fantasy photos would be of Cobb sliding into third, but done by another photographer and catching Conlon in photo taking his famous photo of that slide. Or another example would be another Ruth's eyes, but done by a Thompson, or Bain or VanOeyen, or Burke.
That is where the biggest judgment of comparison will come into play.
The newby photos, I know, will not get the praises the established icons have already received, but because of same or similar content, how fairly can they be judged, even though they may or may not be exemplars for a Thompson or Burke, etc.....

Forever Young · #4 09-17-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by billyb

Mike,
I agree that there are more works of art regarding baseball photos, I listed the three with an etc... as too many to list. I too believe there is room at the top regarding different content within the photo.
My question was photos of same, or similar content. For example, I believe it was Lance who posted, one of his fantasy photos would be of Cobb sliding into third, but done by another photographer and catching Conlon in photo taking his famous photo of that slide. Or another example would be another Ruth's eyes, but done by a Thompson, or Bain or VanOeyen, or Burke.
That is where the biggest judgment of comparison will come into play.
The newby photos, I know, will not get the praises the established icons have already received, but because of same or similar content, how fairly can they be judged, even though they may or may not be exemplars for a Thompson or Burke, etc.....

Do you have examples you want to share? There is nothing that is saying this is impossible. The Conlon Eyes are iconic as they were done in 1927 of murderer's row(one of the most storied-if not the most group in baseball) and shot by Conlon and published a ton. There have been other done since but obviously not the same for various reason. Maybe not as well done, done after, ect ect ect.

Exhibitman · #5 09-17-2013, 01:54 PM

To keep, not for resale:

Hank Aaron from his first game in the Negro League.

Rocky Marciano's first publicity photo as a pro.

Wilt Chamberlain debuting with the Harlem Globetrotters.

Jim Brown's first TD.

Gordie Howe's first goal.

billyb · #6 09-17-2013, 01:45 PM

Ben,
It's about time we heard from you, I, in particular, was wondering what your fantasy photo or photos would be like. Good choices.
Would those fantasy choices include Brother Gilbert in the coaches box???

No Ben, I do not personally have any similar photos to share. I wish I did. But some of the fantasy responses posed that question in my evil mind.

Forever Young · #7 09-17-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by billyb

Ben,
It's about time we heard from you, I, in particular, was wondering what your fantasy photo or photos would be like. Good choices.
Would those fantasy choices include Brother Gilbert in the coaches box???

haha..sure. that would be a nice addition for sure

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