Joseph M Pankiewicz, you are a disgrace to this hobby!

[Cardboard Junkie]

How is it different than buying a used car, that a 3rd party mechanic says is good- condition. Fix it a little. use a little bondo, put some engine quieting mud in the crankcase. Then a 3rd party mechanic says it's excellent. And it is sold at a profit. I'm not convinced that is a crime.. Jes sayin

[Peter_Spaeth]

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1341

[tschock]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Junkie

How is it different than buying a used car, that a 3rd party mechanic says is good- condition. Fix it a little. use a little bondo, put some engine quieting mud in the crankcase. Then a 3rd party mechanic says it's excellent. And it is sold at a profit. I'm not convinced that is a crime.. Jes sayin

Read the link I (or Peter) provided. It's fairly obvious the difference, which in part relies on intent (of the seller). Good versus Excellent condition is an opinion (of the 3rd party, in your case), and not a statement of fact. In the case of the card, altering is a fact, not an opinion. To what extent altering affects the VALUE of a card is an opinion. However "general use acceptance" is that altered cards are worth less than unaltered cards.

"A statement of belief is not a statement of fact and thus is not fraudulent. Puffing, or the expression of a glowing opinion by a seller, is likewise not fraudulent. For example, a car dealer may represent that a particular vehicle is "the finest in the lot." Although the statement may not be true, it is not a statement of fact, and a reasonable buyer would not be justified in relying on it." - again, http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud

[Cardboard Junkie]

Just plodded through the link.....clear as mud now.

[Peter_Spaeth]

It pretty much comes down to you can't use the mail or any private interstate carrier to commit a fraud. Similar statute (wire fraud) that covers the phone/email side of things. Trust me the obstacle is not finding a crime to fit.

[CaramelMan]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It pretty much comes down to you can't use the mail or any private interstate carrier to commit a fraud. Similar statute (wire fraud) that covers the phone/email side of things. Trust me the obstacle is not finding a crime to fit.

love the Cornell Law reference...

any other Cornellians here?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by CaramelMan

any other Cornellians here?

I don't know about Cornellians, but I think the subject of this thread is a Cornholian.

[CaramelMan]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I don't know about Cornellians, but I think the subject of this thread is a Cornholian.

ha Good one!

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