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Old 10-10-2013, 04:50 PM
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Only the statute of limitations would prevent such lawsuits. I believe that is 5 years in Illinois.
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Old 10-10-2013, 04:55 PM
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Well played, Chris!
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I don't know, but would assume, that Illinois law is similar to that of most jurisdictions and that the discovery rule tolls the statute of limitations until the fraud is or reasonably could have been discovered. If so, I think there's a decent argument that the statute of limitations on any fraud claim against Mastro has only recently began to run.
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I don't know, but would assume, that Illinois law is similar to that of most jurisdictions and that the discovery rule tolls the statute of limitations until the fraud is or reasonably could have been discovered. If so, I think there's a decent argument that the statute of limitations on any fraud claim against Mastro has only recently began to run.
According to Jeff it was obvious Mastro was shilling years and years ago.
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Yeah, but gee, the shiller adamantly denied it. There's your question of fact on the statute. Who you gonna believe?
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Yeah, but gee, the shiller adamantly denied it. There's your question of fact on the statute. Who you gonna believe?
As between Jeff and Bill? Hmmmm. Gotta think about that one.
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Im just gonna go out on a limb and bet the next time this card gets sold, it is sold privately and with undisclosed terms.
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From the article,

"Mastro 'personally cut the side borders…using a paper slicing machine,' then sold it without disclosing the alterations, the filing stated".

Does anyone here believe that this was the only card he altered and was later sold in a PSA holder?
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From the article,

"Mastro 'personally cut the side borders…using a paper slicing machine,' then sold it without disclosing the alterations, the filing stated".

Does anyone here believe that this was the only card he altered and was later sold in a PSA holder?
I can't speak for everyone else but, No.
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I would not be surprised if more auction houses are caught up in this type of behavior. Even the auction houses everybody loves on this site. As more time passes, problems will probably surface. To much money in this hobby for it not to happen.

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Only the statute of limitations would prevent such lawsuits. I believe that is 5 years in Illinois.
I think you mean statue of limitations.
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Only the statute of limitations would prevent such lawsuits. I believe that is 5 years in Illinois.
The statute of limitations might also be tolled, if the defendant actively concealed the cause of action from the knowledge of the plaintiff.

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