Let's see some cards from the lesser-publicized sets

[dstudeba]

Sorry Ted, but it is a pet peeve of mine.

This is an N321 what you showed has been referred to as a N321 Proof, or paper thin, or Type 3

N321 -V -------------------------------N321 proof -V

[dstudeba]

As requested

[the 'stache]

Thank you, dstudeba. We are definitely down the rabbit hole now. I'm subscribing to this thread. Lots of things to read up on.

Everybody please make sure your cards are labeled so I know what they are. I think most everybody has, but I just want to mention it.

If there is a God in heaven, he'll let me live a long life. I don't need expensive cars, boats, a house in the Hamptons, or a lot of bling. Just let me put together a kick ass collection to love, and to inspire others.

[itjclarke]

Not nearly as unpublicized/uncommon as others posted here, but some caramels that are less common than the garden variaty T206.
E120 George Sisler.jpgE120 Grover Alexander.jpg
E121 Babe Ruth.jpg

And not Pre-War, but oh well...
1945-1946 Caramelo Deportivo Felices Ray Dandridge.jpg1947 Bond Bread Jackie Robinson portrait.jpg

To your earlier question Bill, yes- strip cards are hand cut from strips of cards... this isn't necessarily a strip, but was hand cut from what had been a pair of Menko cards. I know there are a number of uncut strips that have been posted to the board.
1959 Menko Marukami Sadaharu Oh.jpg

.. and a couple more "attainable" alternatives to the famous T206 portraits
M116 Sporting Life Hans Wagner.jpgM116 Eddie Plank SGC 80.jpg

I know this is OT but these are seldom seen. What about the matchbook covers from the 30'S

[Exhibitman]

H815 Adam Hats Lefty Gomez, B & W variety.



I got interested in this series several years ago when I picked up a quantity of the boxers, other athletes and non-sports subjects and have been slowly hunting them down.

[jb217676]

I consider postcards to be non-mainstream, here's my collection:

http://imageevent.com/jeffintoronto/baseballpostcards

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Sorry Ted, but it is a pet peeve of mine.

This is an N321 what you showed has been referred to as a N321 Proof, or paper thin, or Type 3

Are the N321s lithos, or are these hand drawn? They're beautiful.

[dstudeba]

The N321s are lithos I believe. They are from the same photos used in the N338-1 SF Hess series. Below are scans of an N321 (from eBay) and an N338-1.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by itjclarke

Not nearly as unpublicized/uncommon as others posted here, but some caramels that are less common than the garden variaty T206.

And not Pre-War, but oh well...


To your earlier question Bill, yes- strip cards are hand cut from strips of cards... this isn't necessarily a strip, but was hand cut from what had been a pair of Menko cards. I know there are a number of uncut strips that have been posted to the board.

.. and a couple more "attainable" alternatives to the famous T206 portraits

Those are great cards, Ian! Lots of variety, too. As for the vintage, you're allowed! I don't think anybody here will raise a stink to your inclusion of the great Jackie Robinson!

I have seen those Sporting Life cards before, and I like them very much. The colors are very soft, almost like they were done with pastels. Eventually I'll be adding a Wagner and a Plank to my collection, and those two are great candidates. They evoke the Monster, but they stand on their own, also.

You knew I'd like all of those. Come the beginning of the year, the hardest part for me will be choosing which cards I want to buy first.

Originally Posted by dstudeba

The N321s are lithos I believe. They are from the same photos used in the N338-1 SF Hess series. Below are scans of an N321 (from eBay) and an N338-1.

I thought they might be, but I learned long ago not to make assumptions on something I am not knowledgeable about. Thank you!

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Sorry Ted, but it is a pet peeve of mine.

This is an N321 what you showed has been referred to as a N321 Proof, or paper thin, or Type 3

N321 -V -------------------------------N321 proof -V

Therefore, if I understand you correctly, SGC mis-labelled my N321 card of John Smith ?

If so, then what value do you place on this S.F. Hess card ?






TED Z

[dstudeba]

Bill - Thanks for the kind words and starting a good thread.

Adam - Never get tired of seeing your Adam's Hats.

Ted - Yes, I saw the first SGC mislabelled one in a Legendary catalog a couple of years ago. I emailed Doug Allen about it, but didn't hear anything back. Since then I have unfortunately seen a few more. I think their value is half that of those that were put in packs, but I believe Terry Knouse had a number of these and would probably know better. Here is the best reference I have found on them, years ago from Cycleback. I have not taken the time to confirm or refute his assertion that they are probably one of a kind. http://www.cycleback.com/1800s/tobacco4.htm

Edited to add:

For a specific number, my Whitehead is for sale for $1200, so I put the value on it at a little less

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by dstudeba

Ted - Yes, I saw the first SGC mislabelled one in a Legendary catalog a couple of years ago. I emailed Doug Allen about it, but didn't hear anything back. Since then I have unfortunately seen a few more. I think their value is half that of those that were put in packs, but I believe Terry Knouse had a number of these and would probably know better. Here is the best reference I have found on them, years ago from Cycleback. I have not taken the time to confirm or refute his assertion that they are probably one of a kind. http://www.cycleback.com/1800s/tobacco4.htm

Edited to add:

For a specific number, my Whitehead is for sale for $1200, so I put the value on it at a little less

DAN

Thanx for the great info regarding these cards (proofs); and, for the link to David's informative website.

My John Smith proof is a perfect example why I don't usually like acquiring graded cards. In raw form, I
would have realized it was the "paper" issue.

Anyhow, SGC's new location is only an hour drive from me......so, the next time I visit them, I will have
them re-grade (re-label) this card.

I really appreciate your enlightening me on these S.F Hess cards.


TED Z

[birdman42]

Here are a few more Canadian issues. I'll leave the V61s for Zach to show. Who has a Honey Boy, C46, '37 O-Pee-Chee, Willard's Sports Champions, Crescent Ice Cream, or Peggy Popcorn to put up?



1925 Holland's Creamery, Winnipeg, Manitoba. 18 cards, Washington Senators only. All examples are ridiculously tough, but there's at least one player believed to be unique that's owned by a board member.

1922 V100 Willard's Chocolates, Toronto. 180 cards in set.




1922 (? OC says '23) V89 William Patterson, Brantford. 50 cards in set.

1933 WorldWide Gum (Canadian equivalent of Goudeys). 94 cards in set. This and the next have back text in English then in French.



1936 WorldWide Gum. 134 cards in set.

Happy collecting!

Bill

[Leon]

Originally Posted by birdman42

Here are a few more Canadian issues. I'll leave the V61s for Zach to show. Who has a Honey Boy, C46, '37 O-Pee-Chee, Willard's Sports Champions, Crescent Ice Cream, or Peggy Popcorn to put up?


Bill

I am a type card collector so have a bit up on most that aren't. I will show the Peggy since that one will be one most don't have.

[Tim Kindler]

Thanks guys, You made my day today with all of the great cards displayed in this thread. I haven't had much time to lurk lately, but it was sure nice to see some sweet cards tonight. I also learned some things new about the SF Hess set.
Thanks and Take Care Everyone,
Tim Kindler

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by birdman42

Here are a few more Canadian issues...Who has a ... C46, '37 O-Pee-Chee ... to put up?

OK - here's a few:

[dstudeba]

Ted, glad to help. If you need any help educating SGC on this please let me know. On the plus side, the printing on both types are the same and that is the truly spectacular aspect of these cards.

[jerrys]

194.jpg

[MikeGarcia]

[uffda51]

R312