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I stand by my original comment on the photo. Having had both players under contract, having seen thousands of each of their signatures that I KNOW are good, My opinion (and I use the word opinion only because I have to, but to me its a fact) is on that particular photo, the one that I commented on (the only one I commented on) was never held or signed by EITHER Mantle or Martin.
I will not reply to additional 'what do you think of this' posted in this thread. I just wanted to point out that despite posts above, I stand by what I said, and I am highly confident that in 2013 if presented to PSA/DNA it would not pass their authentication. |
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If you are interested or would like to see some additional photographs please contact me at www.paasaa.com Thanks Mike Frost Last edited by Michael Frost; 10-24-2013 at 03:58 PM. |
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gotcha, my bad...the consensus is they're both bad and were certed by psa/dna.
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My bet was that the item that had your cert was bad. You then produce a Psa cert that made people belive it was authentic. I bet you it was not. Now you are saying I am correct. Not only that you knew they where bad all the time.
Please explain why you then sold the item under your cert with the psa wording. Or is this another forged cert. You work for the government under cover. You have said in the same thread that Chris is great and Chris is terrible. You say you work for Topps .You say you are know the world around as great authenticator. The only thing you will be remembered for on this site is that you are the Walter Middy of 54 You owe the money. The bet was clear. In fact three people agreed that they where forgerys and you said nothing untill you knew you lost. Just so everyone knows I sent it for quick opinon and here is what they said. Response: "Likely Not Genuine" Here are the details of your Request: Comments: Request ID: 100437 Request By: 10/25/2013 Thank you choosing the QuickOpinion service! I feel bad that there are people like you that will always spin the arguement to try and make themselevs look good. You should go back to your friends at Autograph Planet. Oh I am sorry I forgot they threw you out of there. ![]() Just to make another point. You want to bet how many people would trust me saying if a Mantle is authentic or not vs. you on this site? Last edited by shelly; 10-24-2013 at 05:00 PM. |
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There are a ton of autograph collectors on Net54,.
I wonder how many of them use P.A.A.S. to authenticate their autographs? |
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[QUOTE=shelly;1198853]My bet was that the item that had your cert was bad. You then produce a Psa cert that made people belive it was authentic. I bet you it was not. Now you are saying I am correct. Not only that you knew they where bad all the time.
Please explain why you then sold the item under your cert with the psa wording. Or is this another forged cert. You work for the government under cover. You have said in the same thread that Chris is great and Chris is terrible. You say you work for Topps .You say you are know the world around as great authenticator. The only thing you will be remembered for on this site is that you are the Walter Middy of 54 You owe the money. The bet was clear. In fact three people agreed that they where forgerys and you said nothing untill you knew you lost. Shelly, as most know you are a pathological liar.. From top to bottom of this discussion. I am sorry I believe you have no idea you are even lying, changing statements, adding words and just being the typical con man you are credited with being. I know both you and Chris do not want me on Net 54 because, you both have convinced some that you know what you are saying. I never would have certed those photographs and never said they were authentic. Just was playing the game as Westsiders said "Way to reel them in...hook, line, and sinker " Were did I sell that item in question? Where is that Cert with the psa wording from? Were did I say I worked under cover? When was I ever on Autograph Planet? When did they threw me off? In one paragraph alone there is 5 lies out of your mouth. You also said "You have authenticated more bad Mantles outside of the Donald and Morales, Where are all these bad certed Mantles? I can show you 100's of bad certed Mantles from the top autograph authenticators in the world and yet you lie and have the nerve to make this statement. You also said I sell Hot Dogs at Kiosc. Once again you are lying. It is very embarrassing that I am even in a discussion with you, but I thought it was time you were put back in you place. Stop all your lies and pipe dreams and go back to removing the Jose Canseco cards out of the wax packs. |
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Mike youare a sick man. Go back to Todd he will hold your hand and tell you everying is good.
Oh by the way.I was gonna let this go, but how about an answer on this one too. You said Collectibles of the stars didn’t have LOAs in 1997 and that the 1997 LOA for the Mantle posted by Chris was a forgery. So, how about this 1997 Cheetah the Chimp LOA from Collectibles of the Stars? Is this a forgery ? Its dated 1997. And you say the Cheetah signing was some joke but did you know the Chimp wasn’t Cheetah and was never in a Tarzan movie and that anyone who bought your Cheetah signed photos got ripped off with the signature of some unknown chimp? The real Cheetah was dead for years, read the Washington Post. Help us on this one. Those are your signatures on the LOA, or are those forgeries too? You’re so well respected people are forging your name as much as Mantle I guess. chimp.jpg By the way is that your signiture on top or was that forged as well. Hold on a second. It was the CIA at the door telling me to stop. ![]() Last edited by shelly; 10-24-2013 at 07:09 PM. |
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Has anyone ever seen worse spelling than that of Shelly and Mike? Cheetah the Chimp spells better.
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From looking through the list, I would assume THIS is the one who was used for that signing. "Cheetah-Mike (also known as Org), a male chimpanzee owned by Suncoast Primate Sanctuary after being donated from Noell's Chimp Farm in Palm Harbor, FL. Alleged to have been born about 1931 (claimed age in February 2008 was 77), to have been acquired from the estate of Johnny Weissmuller in 1957, and to have been "one of the original 'Cheetahs' from Johnny Weissmuller's Tarzan movies." It has been speculated that this chimp, if he indeed has any connection to Weissmuller, may actually have come from a Florida tourist attraction the actor once launched that included chimps, rather than having appeared in any of his Tarzan films. According to journalist Andrew Woods, this Cheeta was also known as Org. Died in Palm Harbor, Florida, of kidney failure on December 24, 2011." |
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