Lou Gehrig Auto 1928 $2 Bill

[WillowGrove]

Hey autoqraph guys, could someone explain where you see the hesitations? Im considering getting into vintage autos and id love to use this one example for some quick learning. I think I can see what you mean on the L but unsure.

Thanks for any help.

Peter

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Hey autoqraph guys, could someone explain where you see the hesitations? Im considering getting into vintage autos and id love to use this one example for some quick learning. I think I can see what you mean on the L but unsure.

Thanks for any help.

Peter

Look at the G for a while, see the stops and starts? See how stiffly it is written?
This is one horrid forgery.
It is not from the Florida gangsters but probably from the Northeast.

[WillowGrove]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Look at the G for a while, see the stops and starts? See how stiffly it is written?
This is one horrid forgery.
It is not from the Florida gangsters but probably from the Northeast.

Thanks Richard. I do see what you mean - I had to compare the G to real Gehrig auto's to do it - but I see how it was labored and deliberate. A real G would have a much rounder (natural) circle to it-

so interesting this vintage autograph collecting. you really gotta know what you're looking for.

thanks again

peter

[ctownboy]

Willowgrove,

Try this; take a pen and paper and write your name the way you normally do. See how smooth and even that was and how it looks?

Now, take the pen and use your opposite hand to write your name. Even though you are writing your own name, there is shaking and hesitation because what you are doing/writing is not normal.

Most crooks/thieves are simpletons and think they can just write/copy/trace something and get away with it. That is why the REAL crooks practice, practice and practice some more before they attempt to fake something and get away with it. They want their movements to be normal and to flow evenly and not have to think about what they are doing.

At least that is how I have had stuff like this explained to me,

David

[WillowGrove]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

Willowgrove,

Try this; take a pen and paper and write your name the way you normally do. See how smooth and even that was and how it looks?

Now, take the pen and use your opposite hand to write your name. Even though you are writing your own name, there is shaking and hesitation because what you are doing/writing is not normal.


At least that is how I have had stuff like this explained to me,

David

I see what you mean David - thanks for that exercise. -peter

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by WillowGrove

Hey autoqraph guys, could someone explain where you see the hesitations? Im considering getting into vintage autos and id love to use this one example for some quick learning. I think I can see what you mean on the L but unsure.

Thanks for any help.

Peter

If you can't see the hesitations on this one, do yourself a favor and "get out" of Vintage autos...consider having your head examined and "get out" as fast as you are for the quick learning "getting into" them.

wholey snot rag, that's just horrible.

[MooseDog]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

If you can't see the hesitations on this one, do yourself a favor and "get out" of Vintage autos...consider having your head examined and "get out" as fast as you are for the quick learning "getting into" them.

wholey snot rag, that's just horrible.

I agree that is a horrible forgery but I think you're being a wee bit harsh on Peter there, Chuck...when I was a young whippersnapper, I was interested in vintage autographs and came across a binder of them at one of Dick Dobbin's shows at his high school. One of the regulars there, one George C. basically told me to bug off, I was too young to appreciate them and he wouldn't even give me a price.

Thankfully, it was guys like Dobbins, Will Davis, Nick Peters, and Steve Brunner who patiently answered all my questions, showed me great stuff, and planted the seeds of collecting passion that they had.

I've still managed to make a LOT of mistakes along the way in regards to autographs but it's a long learning process and you gotta start somewhere. If only there were a forum like this way back when, the closest thing we had was Jeff Morey's autograph newsletter.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by MooseDog

I agree that is a horrible forgery but I think you're being a wee bit harsh on Peter there, Chuck...when I was a young whippersnapper, I was interested in vintage autographs and came across a binder of them at one of Dick Dobbin's shows at his high school. One of the regulars there, one George C. basically told me to bug off, I was too young to appreciate them and he wouldn't even give me a price.

Thankfully, it was guys like Dobbins, Will Davis, Nick Peters, and Steve Brunner who patiently answered all my questions, showed me great stuff, and planted the seeds of collecting passion that they had.

I've still managed to make a LOT of mistakes along the way in regards to autographs but it's a long learning process and you gotta start somewhere. If only there were a forum like this way back when, the closest thing we had was Jeff Morey's autograph newsletter.

I know..I am more abrasive than 36D grit Sandpaper. I certainly do lack the passion I once started with and will most probably never get it back due to lack of ethics in the industry. Here's a most recent case in point and it's not even Vintage...

I gave the wife a couple of Beans the other night because I had too many. As many of you know, she usually spends on Hair, accessories or Botox. She got roped into some women's league dinner last Friday so she said she's be home late.

As you can see from the pics in her home office, she is quite the Yankee Fan. I painstakingly purchased each item for her over the years, pretty careful to weed out the forgeries. I NEEDED A WEED WHACKER the size of a wagon wheel. I personally hate the Yankees...but that's a story for another day.

She came home with this Framed photo of Bernie Williams. I look at the piece of SH** and see it has a GORGEOUS STICKER FROM ACE. No, not the helpful hardware man, the F'en crook who doubles as an Authenticator...Justin Not too PURDY.

I tell her it's a fake and she says "No it's not, look on the back." She says there were all out bidding wars for Mariano Rivera, her 1st love, exceeding $600.00. She already has 2-16 x 20's so she needs another like I need another Antacid pill from all the forgeries. My bet is they were Ace certified Forgeries as well?

Sure it's for Charity and we love to give to our favorite charities, but these forgeries and people making money off them is a GD TRAVESTY. So I hung the stupid thing up and there the forgery sits. It doesn't really hurt anyone, but the thought of Charities being swindled by ass clowns like this

Amazing Memories, Inc 818 888-9971 www.amazingmemoriesinc.com.

Their new name is now Amazing Forgeries INC. I hope these ass wipes enjoy their money ripping off people and the charities they represent.

That's why I don't sugarcoat it. For every Richard Simon and Jim Stinson there are 1000 forgers and other assorted jack asses in the industry. It's neither fun nor funny as the lustre has worn completely off the hobby for me. That's why if you don't know jack...learn it yourself, no need for the fast track.

[Deertick]

I'm sure Justin would come on here and say that that is a forged COA and he would NEVER authenticate that.

This is a perfect example of part of the damage that occurs with this crap. These items were most likely sold to the end consumer. An easy avenue for the forgers to dump their wares without fear of repercussions. I hope that you (or wifey) contact the person in charge of fundraising so that these effers don't get anymore business from them.