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Old 10-31-2013, 03:19 PM
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It truly is amazing that Joe O. claims to be sitting by the phone waiting for our calls yet the biggest scandal in the history of PSA comes out two weeks ago in which it appears the company was birthed due to a multi-million dollar fraud and yet all we hear are....crickets.
I believe David Hall already is on record as having said -- not too long ago -- that he personally examined the card and that the edges were fine. That may have been in the context of responding to a claim that had been made in "The Card" attributed to Bill Hughes, or it may have been after reports of Mastro's confession had surfaced, but I can't imagine what else they can say at this point.
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I believe David Hall already is on record as having said -- not too long ago -- that he personally examined the card and that the edges were fine. That may have been in the context of responding to a claim that had been made in "The Card" attributed to Bill Hughes, or it may have been after reports of Mastro's confession had surfaced, but I can't imagine what else they can say at this point.
Peter,

I recall that David Hall made that type of statement at the 2012 Registry Luncheon. Here's a news article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/ite...not-in-private
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Dan right that is what I was recalling.

Hall, according to our source, told his audience that they should question Mastro’s motives; Mastro might have agreed to say the card is trimmed as part of a deal with prosecutors. “He was suggesting you can’t believe Mastro, because now he will do anything to save himself,” our spy says.

Hall, according to our mole, also said Bill Hughes, the member of the grading team who told us he knew the card had been trimmed, has denied making those comments. Hall, our spy says, claims Hughes says it is an “out and out lie” that he knew the card had been trimmed.
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Dan right that is what I was recalling.

Hall, according to our source, told his audience that they should question Mastro’s motives; Mastro might have agreed to say the card is trimmed as part of a deal with prosecutors. “He was suggesting you can’t believe Mastro, because now he will do anything to save himself,” our spy says.

Hall, according to our mole, also said Bill Hughes, the member of the grading team who told us he knew the card had been trimmed, has denied making those comments. Hall, our spy says, claims Hughes says it is an “out and out lie” that he knew the card had been trimmed.
The admission to trimming the Wagner was the least of Mastro's problems if you read the indictment against him. Hall is full of shit here.
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The admission to trimming the Wagner was the least of Mastro's problems if you read the indictment against him. Hall is full of shit here.
Not saying he isn't, just saying that PSA has not kept silent entirely on the matter.
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Not saying he isn't, just saying that PSA has not kept silent entirely on the matter.
Well, that's true. The info about Mastro trimming the Wagner was addressed by PSA in that private luncheon. Was that the meeting in which the fancy stationary was passed out?
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Well, that's true. The info about Mastro trimming the Wagner was addressed by PSA in that private luncheon. Was that the meeting in which the fancy stationary was passed out?
Not sure, but it may have been in the next room to the committee being organized to self-police the hobby?
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Well, that's true. The info about Mastro trimming the Wagner was addressed by PSA in that private luncheon. Was that the meeting in which the fancy stationary was passed out?
I was there - it was in Baltimore last year. Hall started off the luncheon with a slide showing The Card and talking about the PSA guarantee.

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Not sure, but it may have been in the next room to the committee being organized to self-police the hobby?
I believe the Fogel Hobby Police was formed two years prior.
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