November pick ups

[whiteymet]

Hi All:

As some of you know, I have been an Exhibit collector since putting 2 cents into an Exhibit Card machine in an Amusement park in NJ when I was 10 years old, 53 years ago.

In all those years I have collected I have never been able to find an example of a Dad's Cookie Exhibit card. I just wanted one for a sample back.

Then I get the below. A COMPLETE set of 64! YEP, Mantle, Mays, J. Robinson, Kaline, Drysdale, Williams, Ashburn, Fox, Spahn, Mathews, Berra, Roberts, and other HOFer's included.

For those unfamiliar with the set these were stapled onto a bag of cookies. There are two staple in each card. Making grading a bit of a problem. I am not a grading person, but how would they grade cards that CAME with staple holes? Do they take the staples as a given and then grade on the rest of the card or do they in effect penalize for the staple holes?

Some of these have creases and rips where the card was pulled off the bag, but with all that said I am ecstatic to acquire the set.

For some reason the guy only had the set, no dupes and no album that is noted on the back of the card. Anyone have an album?

Fred

[Leon]

Neat cards. Just a guess but I think they would still deduct for the holes. FYI, I am almost positive I have had one of these, or seen one, without the staple holes. Congrats on your pickups!!

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Leon

Neat cards. Just a guess but I think they would still deduct for the holes. FYI, I am almost positive I have had one of these, or seen one, without the staple holes. Congrats on your pickups!!

Thanks Leon!

I would be interested in seeing one of these without the staple holes.

Fred

[Bestdj777]

Awesome pickup. In my years looking, I have never come across a single one of these either. I figured not many of them had survived. Great cards. Would love to hear where you found them?

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Awesome pickup. In my years looking, I have never come across a single one of these either. I figured not many of them had survived. Great cards. Would love to hear where you found them?

Hi Chris:

These actually came out of Vancouver Canada. The guy who had them collected them as a kid and had the entire set. But NO dupes!!

Do you have any of 1955 Postcard backs? If so which players and which back? LMK. I have some of these to trade. PM me.

Fred

[h2oya311]

Cool find! He must have been a very prolific trader or sold/traded all dupes. Very awesome!! Great start to the November pick-up thread!

[campyfan39]

Got a couple of nice Bowmans. Looking for more stars from 50's if you have 'em for sale or trade!

[quitcrab]

Is there a Brooks Robinson in the set ? I collect Brooks and I would need that one! I have never seen those type backs before--great pick up!

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by quitcrab

Is there a Brooks Robinson in the set ? I collect Brooks and I would need that one! I have never seen those type backs before--great pick up!

Nope. No Brooksie card in the set. Don't know if that is good news or bad news for you! It's always fun to chase another card you need, but these are so rare you would probably never find one if he was in the set! :>)

[quitcrab]

Believe me when I say if Brooks was in the set I would find it! That's what collectors do! I didn't think he was part of this set because I probably would have heard about the card from other Brooks collectors. Thanks for opening my eyes to a set I have never seen... And I see it as a "good thing" that Brooks was not a part of the set ...I see it as a "bad thing" that he was a topps 1967 3 d prototype ... I will never own that one!

[savedfrommyspokes]

I recently purchased a grouping of 57 Topps cards, and would you believe that (unknowingly) included in the lot was one of the "variations", the 57 BAKEP, I have been wanting for years(I just refused to part with the needed money to acquire one). The seller of this lot appears to not be very familiar with cards as most of his sales involved general estate type items and not cards.

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by quitcrab

Believe me when I say if Brooks was in the set I would find it! That's what collectors do! I didn't think he was part of this set because I probably would have heard about the card from other Brooks collectors. Thanks for opening my eyes to a set I have never seen... And I see it as a "good thing" that Brooks was not a part of the set ...I see it as a "bad thing" that he was a topps 1967 3 d prototype ... I will never own that one!

Speaking about Brooks Robinson cards, take a look at the thread I started in the Modern Baseball Cards Forum (1980-Present) forum titled 1997 Topps Rookie Reprint Autographs. Brooksie's card is included in a variation you most likely do not have.

I just picked up an uncut sheet of them with the Certified Autographs Gold Foil stamps WITHOUT the autographs.

I am waiting for Topps Experts Al Richter and Dav.e Hornis.h to comment on if they have been seen without the autographs WITH the foil stamp.

Also it is my belief that this sheet has the only cards of Ashburn with the gold foil stamp as his cards were NOT issued autographed because he died before he could sign the cards.

[mybestbretts]

Thank you for sharing such a great collection. I always enjoy seeing new
collections I have never seen before
Sandy

[HOF Yankees]

got this one coming in later today, a beauty

[the 'stache]

Holy cow, Fred. Jackpot! Those things are just beautiful! I wouldn't be able to take my eyes off of them. I especially love the Braves.

One curiosity though. Most of the players are portrayed with their team name and logo on their hat. Others there is no team name or logo (blacked out). I wonder about the story behind that. Did the set producer have to contact each individual team for permission?

From the looks of it, these would have been printed between '51 and '52. Pafko was a member of the Cubs prior to those two seasons, and the Milwaukee Braves after. Ernie Banks and Eddie Mathews are pictured with their team logos, but Don Newcombe is not.

[Brianruns10]

I just won this doozy over at Heritage. Paid a bit of a premium over SMR, but worth it for those amazing colors and killer centering. Forget an OC PSA 8...I'll take one of these any day!

[ALR-bishop]

Saved-- fun find. I have always viewed it as a minor print defect, of which there are many such back defects in every Topps set. But it has hobby recognition and is therefore a must for every master 57 collector.

Nice 52 high Brian

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Holy cow, Fred. Jackpot! Those things are just beautiful! I wouldn't be able to take my eyes off of them. I especially love the Braves.

One curiosity though. Most of the players are portrayed with their team name and logo on their hat. Others there is no team name or logo (blacked out). I wonder about the story behind that. Did the set producer have to contact each individual team for permission?

From the looks of it, these would have been printed between '51 and '52. Pafko was a member of the Cubs prior to those two seasons, and the Milwaukee Braves after. Ernie Banks and Eddie Mathews are pictured with their team logos, but Don Newcombe is not.

Hi Bill:

YEAH! I do feel like I hit the jackpot with these! Thanks.

These are the regular issue of the 1959 Exhibit Card set with the Dad's Cookies ad on the reverse. It is not known if Dad's did the back printing or the Exhibit Co. Dad's had nothing to do with the photos. That was up to the Exhibit Card Company. Why they choose to use certain photos without logos while others had them is something we will pobably never know. FYI the card of Newcomb you reference was issued with the Dodgers logo on his cap and jacket in an earlier Exhibit set. He was later traded to the Reds, I believe, and they just airbrushed out the Dodgers stuff and issued him in a plain cap etc., much like Topps has been known to do.

Fred

[Exhibitman]

That's a hell of a hit, Fred, congrats!

I picked up a few modest pieces:

1955 Bill and Bob:




1954 Cleveland Picture Pack Al Rosen

[whiteymet]

[QUOTE=Exhibitman;1203529]That's a hell of a hit, Fred, congrats!

Thanks Adam! I had been trying for years just to find one (hopefully Ashburn since I collect his stuff), but being an Exhibit collector too these fit right in to my collection. Found it hard to believe the guy had JUST a set. NO dupes!

I don't do grading, but am considering it on these. What is your take if I do so? PSA or SGC? I have heard from others they will not take into account that these were issued with staples, so there can not be any high grades right from the start. Should I just get them authenticated instead of a numerical grade? Any guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Fred

[Bestdj777]

[Leon]

I dabble in cards up to 1949.....

[sflayank]

wow...leon paying strong...
i have an exmt one and a 2nd one with postcard reverse
not for sale

[Iwantmorecards77]

My small contribution:

[itjclarke]

Been wanting to get my Banks rookie signed for a while, but decided to snatch this one up when I saw it (technically got it in early Oct)
1954 Topps Ernie Banks.jpg

Got Jackie off BST (thanks Robert)
1953 Topps Jackie Robinson.jpg

[ALR-bishop]

Ian---it takes some gall to post an October pick up in a November thread

Very nice pick ups

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Ian---it takes some gall to post an October pick up in a November thread

Very nice pick ups

Ha! I'm sure it would take more gall to bump the October thread above the November.

Thanks

[g_vezina_c55]

Already posted this pick up in the Pre-war section, but just discovered the Post - war section in this board

so it is my first post-war pick up

Hey Ian, Nice 53 robinson... i love this card... probably my favorite card of Jackie with the 52 topps.

[ALR-bishop]

Hard to beat that as a first post war pick up, Nelson

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Hard to beat that as a first post war pick up, Nelson

Thx Al. My switch from hockey cards to baseball cards in 2012 was in the pre-war stuff, Principaly T206 cards. And now, almost 2 years after my introduction, i moved to the goudey cards in pre-war and at the shriners show this month i started to buy Some post-war cards.

At the begining my idea was to only have the Mantle since it is the most iconic post war card and probably 1 of the most iconic of ALL baseball card. But now, my idea changed a little bit i think i will buy other post war card.

I also buyed a 1961 Maris card because i really love the movie 61
I will also probably buy 1 or 2 Jackie robinson also beause i really love the movie
And finally i will buy more Mantle cards.
Thx again for the nice word Al

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

[QUOTE=itjclarke;1206329]Been wanting to get my Banks rookie signed for a while, but decided to snatch this one up when I saw it (technically got it in early Oct)
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Got Jackie off BST (thanks Robert)
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Ian,

Good lookin' Robinson!!

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

Already posted this pick up in the Pre-war section, but just discovered the Post - war section in this board

so it is my first post-war pick up

Great pickup Nelson. As I am sure you know, it is tough to find a 1 that is that clean.

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

Great pickup Nelson. As I am sure you know, it is tough to find a 1 that is that clean.

Thx !
The eyes appeal on that mantle is great

[Robextend]

[whiteymet]

This just back from PSA. For the life of me I can not figure out grading!! This looks great to me.

You will see this soon in the B/S/T forum as I am interested in trading it.

I also have three ads with Yogi for Shelby bikes. One of which has the send away coupon for the Premium and shows it as well!

Never saw this before, but it is listed in the SCD Vintage Catalog.

[Exhibitman]

My guess with some of the photographic premiums is that while they look great, they often have small creases that just kill a technical grade. Not that it will matter for resale--rare is rare.

[Rickyy]

Fred Wow...congrats that's a jackpot...never seen many of those cards...let alone a complete set! I have one slabbed by SGC...got to go back home later and check the acutal grade.

Ricky Y

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

My guess with some of the photographic premiums is that while they look great, they often have small creases that just kill a technical grade. Not that it will matter for resale--rare is rare.

Adam:

Yeah, you are right about PSA. And yep, rare is rare. Have you seen this before?

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Rickyy

Fred Wow...congrats that's a jackpot...never seen many of those cards...let alone a complete set! I have one slabbed by SGC...got to go back home later and check the acutal grade.

Ricky Y

Hi Ricky:

yeah, jackpot is a good word! LMK what grade yours has. I assume from talking to others they do not take into account that they were issued with staples and will not grade them high due to this.

Fred

[g_vezina_c55]

my 61 Maris card.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

...how would they grade cards that CAME with staple holes? Do they take the staples as a given and then grade on the rest of the card or do they in effect penalize for the staple holes?

The people who get paid for their opinions would hate those staple holes, which is just another reason not to pay them for their opinion.

Those are fantastic, congrats.

Doug

[Bestdj777]

I generally don't purchase panels but I have never seen this without the edges removed:

[Rickyy]

Originally Posted by whiteymet

Hi Ricky:

yeah, jackpot is a good word! LMK what grade yours has. I assume from talking to others they do not take into account that they were issued with staples and will not grade them high due to this.

Fred

Fred, mine is G-VG card of Elston Howard, but with the staple hole...it did come back a SGC 10 Poor...so I think the staple holes definitely accounted for the down grade...

Ricky Y

[campyfan39]

picked this up for just 11 bucks!
Scratches on the case which I will bust out anyways!

[brob28]

Reese looks great Chris. Nice one!

[Rickyy]

Wow that's a nice Reese Chris! Congrats!

Ricky Y

[whiteymet]

Originally Posted by Rickyy

Fred, mine is G-VG card of Elston Howard, but with the staple hole...it did come back a SGC 10 Poor...so I think the staple holes definitely accounted for the down grade...

Ricky Y

Hi Ricky:

Thanks for checking on the Dad's cookies card. I assumed they would not take the staple holes into account. Not that big a deal for me because for the most part I do not do grading. But it is good to know what to expect should I ever decide to get them graded.

Fred

[Robextend]

[h2oya311]

Rob - gorgeous Palmer rookie. Love the centering and registration on that bad boy. Wish it had been given its rightful numerical grade...simply gorgeous!

[brob28]

It's been a slow month. Post REA hangover, but I did finally pick up this toughie for my '61 set.