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Old 11-12-2013, 11:44 AM
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Not even Nash insinuates there was an image of another M101-6 publicly available, at least as I read his post. That being the case, and given that Ken says he still has not seen an image of another one, I wonder what the "conclusive" evidence Ken mentions was that convinced him to change the auction description. The old Leland's description Nash mentions does appear to be erroneous and refers to an M101-4.
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i must have seen the one that's on the black betsy web site which appears to be a different one that was in goldins auction.
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Not even Nash insinuates there was an image of another M101-6 publicly available, at least as I read his post. That being the case, and given that Ken says he still has not seen an image of another one, I wonder what the "conclusive" evidence Ken mentions was that convinced him to change the auction description. The old Leland's description Nash mentions does appear to be erroneous and refers to an M101-4.
Still have not seen another images of an actual card besides one that was sold.
I was emailed a copy of of the 1994 listing of a the card in question on that date, and although it was listed as a 1919 card and did not show a picture, I thought it was prudent to edit and be cautious since it was so close to auction close .
The image on black Betsy appears to be a photo, not a card as the background is different ( when I last looked a week ago)My writer was not aware of that photo though either.

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Does the issue made at that linked website strike anyone else as pure high school drama for the sake of drama? The outing of fake autos is one thing, but if I read it accurately, here we have...

Some info came to light, a description was amended, bidders were e-mailed and offered retractions if so desired.

It is an AWESOME card, zero debating that, and I'm sure whoever now owns it is thrilled-- and rightfully so.

What is the Sturm und Drang all about?
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halls of shame is definitely partial truths mixed with a whole lot of drama!
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surely someone must have an old lelands catalog with aforementioned JJ card?
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surely someone must have an old lelands catalog with aforementioned JJ card?
Peter look at the link to Hauls of Shame. No pic, only an erroneous description, it says M101-6 but calls it Sporting News.
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peter...was it NOT sold in a lelands auction? Was it a private sale?
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Does the issue made at that linked website strike anyone else as pure high school drama for the sake of drama? The outing of fake autos is one thing, but if I read it accurately, here we have...

Some info came to light, a description was amended, bidders were e-mailed and offered retractions if so desired.

It is an AWESOME card, zero debating that, and I'm sure whoever now owns it is thrilled-- and rightfully so.

What is the Sturm und Drang all about?
Nash appears to be arguing that the 1994 consignor had informed Goldin Auctions about the prior sale back in September, but that Goldin Auctions had continued to claim the card was unique.
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