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			I to dont see what you are talking about Paul. Looks like a collet and spring pin to me. As for the other pin it also is just a spring pin and collet system just with the pin connecting into the small pin holder. Have seen many of this type on the PM10 stadium pins. Here is one out of the pin.
		 
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			My guess is that the Wagner has a borrowed springpin from a different pin.
		 
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			Paul, I think your eyes are in fact deceiving you.  If you look closely at the back of the Wagner, you can see some of the spring pin between 9:00 and 10:00.  The black hole you see is just a shadow.
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			Yup... You can indeed see it right at 10:00.  Good eyes, MK!
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