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Old 11-30-2013, 12:13 AM
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:21 AM
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It doesn't appear to have bad overall eye appeal. I could live with that corner. The back I am guessing is complete with no paper loss. Price seems about right, but if you don't like it.....that's what matters. Dave.
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Old 11-30-2013, 01:41 AM
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I think it's a a tough call returning a graded card. Honestly if you weren't comfortable with the pictures offered maybe you should have passed on bidding? I'd never return a card that was slabbed personally and as pointed out, card still looks great.

I think you are right on by offering the seller to keep $15 for the relist and his shipping costs. That's a class move on your part if you do insist on returning it.
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Old 11-30-2013, 01:50 AM
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Third party grading was started to eliminate sellers saying their cards were better than they were. The seller was not lying if he said he was selling a PSA 3, so he shouldn't have to take a return in my opinion. If he himself stated it to be better than it actually was, then I would say you should have the right to return it to him. I personally wouldn't return it to the seller. If I had a real gripe about how it looked, I would contact Joe Orlando and he would give you a full refund if it indeed is thought to be over graded by PSA.
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Old 11-30-2013, 02:03 AM
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I think most people can relate to the fact that when you have a card(s) in hand, they can certainly look different than when displayed on a computer and deciding whether or not to buy them.

I do not think you would be out of line by returning this card because it is not what you thought it was. Simply contact the seller and explain to him that you do not like the card because of the facts you stated above and see where it goes. You're a smart and easy going guy and you can talk to people with the best of them. I'm sure the seller will understand and you two can come to some agreement. You shouldn't feel bad about wanting to return this card...it happens!

Good luck and keep us posted!
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The seller was not lying if he said he was selling a PSA 3, so he shouldn't have to take a return in my opinion. If I had a real gripe about how it looked, I would contact Joe Orlando and he would give you a full refund if it indeed is thought to be over graded by PSA.
Sellers should guarantee satisfaction unconditionally instead of hiding behind a grading company's mistakes. They are selling a card and not some third party's opinion of it. As a practical matter, PSA would not refund anything on this card, and it would certainly not merit the attention of their president, even if he was so inclined. I agree with the majority that it's a passable three.
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Sellers should guarantee satisfaction unconditionally instead of hiding behind a grading company's mistakes. They are selling a card not some third party's opinion of it.
Ed well spoken. I agree 100%. When I sell a card to a buyer no matter if graded or raw, if they are not satisfied for any reason a full refund would be offered. It's just good business sense.

Oddly enough I've purchased cards from board members and not been happy with them once received only to be told to take it up with third party grading. To each their own........
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Ed well spoken. I agree 100%. When I sell a card to a buyer no matter if graded or raw, if they are not satisfied for any reason a full refund would be offered. It's just good business sense.

Oddly enough I've purchased cards from board members and not been happy with them once received only to be told to take it up with third party grading. To each their own........
I guess I didn't think that was really compliant with Leon's b/s/t standards, huh...
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Bill, I think it makes sense you are keeping it. And, I think you should be proud to own it. It is a very nice looking card. And, if you are anything like me, soon your eyes will be to the point where you cannot even see the corner without squinting a lot.
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Ed well spoken. I agree 100%. When I sell a card to a buyer no matter if graded or raw, if they are not satisfied for any reason a full refund would be offered. It's just good business sense.

Oddly enough I've purchased cards from board members and not been happy with them once received only to be told to take it up with third party grading. To each their own........
and I have emailed PMs to a seller, when somewhat unhappy with a purchase, only to be ignored. Then the same person ignoring me then wanted a refund on a graded card I sold on ebay, where I clearly stated no returns on graded cards....go figure...

I should add, I think that is just about the only time I have ever refused a return.....I have even given a few refunds years after a purchase.
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Sellers should guarantee satisfaction unconditionally instead of hiding behind a grading company's mistakes. They are selling a card and not some third party's opionon of it. As a practical matter, PSA would not refund anything on this card, and it would certainly not merit the attention of their president, even if he was so inclined. I agree with the majority that it's a passable three.
PSA's president is an empty suit. Discussing nearly anything with him from a meaningful standpoint would be a complete waste of my time.

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