ebay seller - probstein123

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

You just verified that an auction you thought was shilled... Was not...

It's been proven that Rick allows shilling on his auctions as it's been pointed out to him multiple times and he's done absolutely nothing about it. That is not an accusation, that is a fact. How can you set there and defend that or even do business with him for that matter?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It's been proven that Rick allows shilling on his auctions as it's been pointed out to him multiple times and he's done absolutely nothing about it. That is not an accusation, that is a fact. How can you set there and defend that or even do business with him for that matter?

And how does he know that that auction wasn't shilled?

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It's been proven that Rick allows shilling on his auctions as it's been pointed out to him multiple times and he's done absolutely nothing about it. That is not an accusation, that is a fact. How can you set there and defend that or even do business with him for that matter?

I remember saying you had such good proof... I don't remember ever seeing it posted... Did I miss a thread?

[slidekellyslide]

Is Rick a personal friend of yours, Sean?

[Big Dave]

This almost seems like a Travis and TPAs thread.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

This almost seems like a Travis and TPAs thread.

Please don't ever compare me to Travis. I have not once said I do not believe shilling has occurred in Rick's auctions. But your constant berating is unnecessary.

[Big Dave]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Please don't ever compare me to Travis. I have not once said I do not believe shilling has occurred in Rick's auctions. But your constant berating is unnecessary.

Wasn't talking to you or about you. Just the general nature of this thread.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Is Rick a personal friend of yours, Sean?

No he is not.

[jhs5120]

Can someone show me the "hard evidence" of Panky still consigning and shilling with Rick?

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Can someone show me the "hard evidence" of Panky still consigning and shilling with Rick?

That would be what I am referring to.

[Sean1125]

I will make my stance clear since several members are misinterpreting it.

- I have no comment when it comes to shilling. I do not deny that it happened.
- I have not and will not ever shill my own auctions.
- The constant berating of Rick is unnecessary and uncalled for.
- The SUPER MAJORITY of auctions are fine. I do not see comments ever made on those.
- I have offered to e-mail Rick on anyone's behalf who believe an auction is being shilled. He will act accordingly if it is.
- When his name is mentioned in conversation and the first thing out of the persons mouth (actually happened today viewing an inventory), "oh so you shill your auctions?" It hurts. Not everyone is honest and I get grouped into them because of your comments.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Can someone show me the "hard evidence" of Panky still consigning and shilling with Rick?

Originally Posted by Sean1125

That would be what I am referring to.

This has already been discussed as well. But we can revisit is again. If you look at Probstein's stores, Panky's is "The GEM Collection."

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

I remember saying you had such good proof... I don't remember ever seeing it posted... Did I miss a thread?

No, the threads are real Sean, they are on the card side

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by gnaz01

No, the threads are real Sean, they are on the card side

Dave went far above and beyond saying he had 'hard evidence'. I can't find it in any of the threads.

[autograf]

And how could you not care what a lot sells for if it was profit from another deal.....if that's so, why wouldn't you just auction it yourself? 2+2=5 there.......

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by autograf

And how could you not care what a lot sells for if it was profit from another deal.....if that's so, why wouldn't you just auction it yourself? 2+2=5 there.......

Money isn't the world. Items sell for what they sell. I view what I do as 'day trading' for cards. Win some lose some.

Because I fly around the country. It is much easier sending it to Rick, having him list it, pack it, ship it, and getting paid the next day regardless of if the auction is actually paid?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Did I miss a thread?

I guess you did. Here it is...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174881

See post #39. I laid out all the evidence and connected all the dots. Any questions?

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I guess you did. Here it is...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174881

See post #39. I laid out all the evidence and connected all the dots. Any questions?

That is not what I am referring to. I will reiterate, I have not once said I do not believe shilling has occurred in Rick's auctions. You went above and beyond this post saying you had proof that Rick had done something worse... For some reason the search function on my e-mail isn't working or I would pull the PM to get the exact wording.