Change of Pace: 1962 Green Tints (scan heavy)

[grainsley]

The '62 White Sox card-I think with the regular version, 2nd row on the far left, his elbow is quite a ways from the left edge. The tint (IMO) is the one where his elbow almost touches the border. This one is also a little out of focus on my card. Ruth's Farewell has slight cropping differences, and the color is washed out, some more than others.

[JollyElm]

Bill,
These 2 pages from my treatise on GT's should explain everything for you. The resolution isn't too great, unfortunately, but you should still be able to see what I'm pointing out without too much difficulty.

Just look towards the red circles...

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[savedfrommyspokes]

So what is the explanation as to why there are cropping differences between the regular and green tint cards?

[ALR-bishop]

For one thing there were 2 separate printers used...different companies

[brob28]

Grant - Darren, thank you. Darren, nice work.

Al I had heard that there was a second printing plate made for a second printer to help with larger than ususal production needs in the 2nd series. After the second series this was stopped - perhaps due to the color being botched by the second printer. Have you heard/read similar?

Still seems odd that the cropping would be different, despite the second print plate being made. Doesnt seem like it woudl be too difficult to match them perfectly given techniques in the '60's.

[savedfrommyspokes]

Originally Posted by brob28

Grant - Darren, thank you. Darren, nice work.

Al I had heard that there was a second printing plate made for a second printer to help with larger than ususal production needs in the 2nd series. After the second series this was stopped - perhaps due to the color being botched by the second printer. Have you heard/read similar?

Still seems odd that the cropping would be different, despite the second print plate being made. Doesnt seem like it woudl be too difficult to match them perfectly given techniques in the '60's.

Due to the second printer being discussed here before, I was aware of a second printer helping to print this series...but what I did not understand is why this other printer used a separate (unique due to the cropping differences) printing plate from what Topps used?

A second printing plate being made in order for Topps to sub out some of the printing to a second printer in order for Topps to fulfill the stronger than expected demand does make sense. However, in my experience with the 62s there appears to be no shortage of 1st series cards (unlike some previous issues) when compared to the second series of 62s. So, if Topps was able to handle the printing expectations for the 1st series of 62s, why were they not able to handle the second series also?

Also, based on my collecting of this set over the past 10+ years, my experience has been that for every 5-6 regular issue 2nd ser cards there is one GT. Is it known more precisely what the actual print rates are for the regular cards as compared to the GT cards?

[ALR-bishop]

I think it was Dave Hornish who was the source of what I heard about a second printer. I 'll ask him to visit this thread. Great thread Daren