FINAL----HOF Ballot- Submit your own!

bn2cardz · #1 01-08-2014, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gashousegang_1

Was thinking the same thing....What is that 1 or 2 votes? Tough day for him.

Maybe they should grade on a curve. When a DUH! vote like Maddux doesn't get 100% of the vote then you know there are some voters who shouldn't be voting.

earlywynnfan · #2 01-08-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Maybe they should grade on a curve. When a DUH! vote like Maddux doesn't get 100% of the vote then you know there are some voters who shouldn't be voting.

You know, I'm big on wondering how guys like Musial and such don't get 100% but sort of understand with Maddux. Is he a HOF lock? SURE! But with this ballot, crammed with players who are deserving (or at least deserving of a few years' discussion,) then I could see myself voting for 10 other guys, knowing full well Maddux will get in anyway.

Not saying this is the right thing to do, but I'd understand it.

Ken

bn2cardz · #3 01-08-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

You know, I'm big on wondering how guys like Musial and such don't get 100% but sort of understand with Maddux. Is he a HOF lock? SURE! But with this ballot, crammed with players who are deserving (or at least deserving of a few years' discussion,) then I could see myself voting for 10 other guys, knowing full well Maddux will get in anyway.

Not saying this is the right thing to do, but I'd understand it.

Ken

This is why I say it should be done on a curve. I wonder if that is why Biggio didn't get those extra two votes, some just assumed he would be in and they could put their votes somewhere else. It only takes 2 guys thinking that way in this case.

Jim65 · #4 01-08-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bn2cardz

Maybe they should grade on a curve. When a DUH! vote like Maddux doesn't get 100% of the vote then you know there are some voters who shouldn't be voting.

Agreed, the writer who voted for guys like JT Snow shouldn't be voting either.

Forever Young · #5 01-08-2014, 04:04 PM

Anyone have a link to all the players that got votes and the corresponding percentages they could post?

earlywynnfan · #6 01-08-2014, 04:34 PM

This was posted by Rob over on the card side:

MLB.COM

Player (Years on ballot) Total Votes Percentage
Greg Maddux (1) 555 97.2
Tom Glavine (1) 525 91.9
Frank Thomas (1) 478 83.7
Craig Biggio (2) 427 74.8
Mike Piazza (2) 355 62.2
Jack Morris (15) 351 61.5
Jeff Bagwell (4) 310 54.3
Tim Raines (7) 263 46.1
Roger Clemens (2) 202 35.4
Barry Bonds (2) 198 34.7
Lee Smith (12) 171 29.9
Curt Schilling (2) 167 29.2
Edgar Martinez (5) 144 25.2
Alan Trammell (13) 119 20.8
Mike Mussina (1) 116 20.3
Jeff Kent (1) 87 15.2
Fred McGriff (8) 67 11.7
Mark McGwire (8) 63 11.0
Larry Walker (4) 58 10.2
Don Mattingly (14) 47 8.2
Sammy Sosa (2) 41 7.2
Rafael Palmeiro (4) 25 4.4
Moises Alou (1) 6 1.1
Hideo Nomo (1) 6 1.1
Luis Gonzalez (1) 5 0.9
Eric Gagne (1) 2 0.4
J.T. Snow (1) 2 0.4
Armando Benitez (1) 1 0.2
Jacque Jones (1) 1 0.2
Kenny Rogers (1) 1 0.2
Sean Casey (1) 0 0.0
Ray Durham (1) 0 0.0
Todd Jones (1) 0 0.0
Paul Lo Duca (1) 0 0.0
Richie Sexson (1) 0 0.0
Mike Timlin (1) 0 0.0
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earlywynnfan · #7 01-08-2014, 04:37 PM

So if Mussina didn't come close, what do you guys think of Pettite's chances?

Forever Young · #8 01-08-2014, 05:01 PM

So... how do people get nominated?? Like.... these guys.......

Moises Alou (1) 6 1.1
Hideo Nomo (1) 6 1.1
Luis Gonzalez (1) 5 0.9
Eric Gagne (1) 2 0.4
J.T. Snow (1) 2 0.4
Armando Benitez (1) 1 0.2
Jacque Jones (1) 1 0.2
Kenny Rogers (1) 1 0.2
Sean Casey (1) 0 0.0
Ray Durham (1) 0 0.0
Todd Jones (1) 0 0.0
Paul Lo Duca (1) 0 0.0
Richie Sexson (1) 0 0.0
Mike Timlin (1) 0 0.0

Scott Garner · #9 01-08-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Forever Young

So... how do people get nominated?? Like.... these guys.......

Moises Alou (1) 6 1.1
Hideo Nomo (1) 6 1.1
Luis Gonzalez (1) 5 0.9
Eric Gagne (1) 2 0.4
J.T. Snow (1) 2 0.4
Armando Benitez (1) 1 0.2
Jacque Jones (1) 1 0.2
Kenny Rogers (1) 1 0.2
Sean Casey (1) 0 0.0
Ray Durham (1) 0 0.0
Todd Jones (1) 0 0.0
Paul Lo Duca (1) 0 0.0
Richie Sexson (1) 0 0.0
Mike Timlin (1) 0 0.0

Great question, Ben.

Jim65 · #10 01-08-2014, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

So if Mussina didn't come close, what do you guys think of Pettite's chances?

I think Pettitte is on the fence, he did admit taking a PED.

perezfan · #11 01-10-2014, 04:10 PM

I would give Pettite a 35 - 40% chance. And that's across his entire term of eligibility. Post-season achievements and playing most years in NY helps - PED factor hurts...

Maybe the passage of time will soften things, and his honest admission will be well-embraced, as opposed to most others' elusiveness, lying and deception (McGwire/Bonds/Clemens/Palmeiro/Sosa/A-Rod).

But if you are asking about first-ballot, I would say less than a 5% chance.

HRBAKER · #12 01-10-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim65

I think Pettitte is on the fence, he did admit taking a PED.

He'll never get in via the sportswriters IMO bc he either lied initially or later about Clemens.

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