1991 Topps / DS Packaging

[4reals]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I think I do have all the bold 40 emblem cards and many of the front and back differences. But am not sure precisely how many of the cards can be found with glow ink or if the entire set can be made in all non glow ink.

I have put together both a complete glow set and a complete non-glow set without bold back logos. Bold back logos were found only on A & B sheet cards. Putting together a glow set is the easier of the two because I also found in my research that every factory set I purchased (approx. 10) had only glow back cards. Perhaps others can check their 91 factory sets as well to confirm this. In my opinion this would mean a much smaller number of non-glow sets exist since they would have to be put together by hand. While non glow sets may be in smaller quantities than the glow sets, I have not found that to be the case with singles obtained through packaged product (packs). I have gone through a ton of rack packs, cello packs, wax packs, vending boxes, etc. and found that the glow backs outnumbered the non-glow backs by about 60-40.

I have also put together a complete non-glow set with bold back logos. I am, however, still missing some glow back/bold back cards leaving that set incomplete. I am 100% confident they exist I just haven't come across a few of them. In the 20,000+ 91s I've obtained I have about twice as many non-glow bold backs as I do glow bold backs. This leads me to believe the glow back bold back cards are the most difficult to obtain.

The glow back / bold back cards that still need to be confirmed are:

#144, 271, 502, 505, 532, 542, 546, 563, 564, 574, 591, 610, 667, 671, 727, 746, 768, 774, 783, 792.

I think it's weird these are all in the upper portion of the set. What likely happened is that I have them but I misplaced them in a pile of cards or misfiled them or something. Nevertheless, they're unconfirmed. If anyone has duplicates of these and wants to put together their own set I would be happy to trade with them.

I'm not going to start a new thread like I mentioned before, I'll just keep adding more info on this one since the momentum is moving pretty good.

Here's a pic of bold logo backs vs. non-bold logo or faint (screened) logo backs:

Bio boxes on back can also be found in red or a faint pink but they have no distinct correlation to sheet codes like the 40 logo, it's just a random print abnormality. I chose not to include them on the master set list I created which I'll make available to everyone once I fine tune it a little.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by 4reals

I have put together both a complete glow set and a complete non-glow set without bold back logos. Bold back logos were found only on A & B sheets............This leads me to believe the glow back bold back cards are the most difficult to obtain.

Joe,

The DS set is different but you've mentioned an important point. Sheets A & B have the bold 40th Anniversary logos....and sheets C-F have the faint version of the same logo. However, the DS set is consistent with your comments above that the rarest cards come with a bold logo (ie sheets A and B); however the faint variation or non glowing back is the rarest in the DS set.

Oddly, I have a hybrid card which happens to be the Chipper Jones card which first spurred your initial email to me. It is a Sheet F card, like all Chipper Jones cards, with both glowing and non-glowing portions of the Anniversary logo.

Z Wheat

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

This is an absolutely fascinating thread. I didn't even know about the Bold back cards, nevermind the Glow back cards. Thanks to everyone for sharing the info.

[ALR-bishop]

Darn. Now Arthur knows.

[HasselhoffsCheeseburger]

Don't worry, I'm pretty sure I'll forget in about 48 hours and then rediscover this thread in a year and bump it back up with a post eerily similar to my previous one.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by HasselhoffsCheeseburger

Don't worry, I'm pretty sure I'll forget in about 48 hours and then rediscover this thread in a year and bump it back up with a post eerily similar to my previous one.

I do this as well. As an FYI Arthur, the sheet codes are detailed on the reverse of the card, near the copyright info...and read A-F.

Z Wheat

[bnorth]

A shameless plug. I put the Lance Parish and Karl Rhodes DS print errors in the live auction section. Might consider outrageous offers for the Jose Rijo.