Gerry and Sherry and Joe

wonkaticket · #1 01-14-2014, 03:16 AM

I�ll go on record and say this. I think Peter has some good articles and some of them are credible or based loosely in fact.

With that said Peter himself is a fraudster and has mountains of legal troubles from being accused of selling fake merchandise, creating fake merchandise, threats on other collectors, owing people lots of money, outstanding warrants and legal matters etc.

His whole website really came about hot and heavy with these �investigative� articles after he was knee deep in all the above. The website has been little more than a smoke screen to draw attention away from his own issues and to slam those who have issue with him via his own forum. All of this is of course done under the banner of hobby white knight and savior.

While I wouldn�t disagree with Jerry Sandusky that one should keep an eye on their kids and that child molesters are really bad people I wouldn�t rush to read Jerry�s daily blog pointing fingers either.

I will issue a public challenge to Peter Nash since I know he reads this board and calls me a Lifson cheerleader. If Peter is willing to acknowledge and answer publicly the very well know claims about his past and present, I would be willing to be more receptive to his website�.in fact I might even join his cause.

However until the man takes responsibility for his role in hobby fraud or at least addresses it vs. pleading the fifth at every turn I will continue to consider him a fraudster with a website and an axe to grind.

John

David R · #2 01-14-2014, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wonkaticket

I�ll go on record and say this. I think Peter has some good articles and some of them are credible or based loosely in fact.

With that said Peter himself is a fraudster and has mountains of legal troubles from being accused of selling fake merchandise, creating fake merchandise, threats on other collectors, owing people lots of money, outstanding warrants and legal matters etc.

His whole website really came about hot and heavy with these �investigative� articles after he was knee deep in all the above. The website has been little more than a smoke screen to draw attention away from his own issues and to slam those who have issue with him via his own forum. All of this is of course done under the banner of hobby white knight and savior.

While I wouldn�t disagree with Jerry Sandusky that one should keep an eye on their kids and that child molesters are really bad people I wouldn�t rush to read Jerry�s daily blog pointing fingers either.

I will issue a public challenge to Peter Nash since I know he reads this board and calls me a Lifson cheerleader. If Peter is willing to acknowledge and answer publicly the very well know claims about his past and present, I would be willing to be more receptive to his website�.in fact I might even join his cause.

However until the man takes responsibility for his role in hobby fraud or at least addresses it vs. pleading the fifth at every turn I will continue to consider him a fraudster with a website and an axe to grind.

John

Thanks John. I appreciate the explanation.

E93 · #3 01-14-2014, 02:38 PM

While I agree with John regarding Hauls of Shame and Nash, I also hope the FBI is investigating the alleged fraud that Schwarts and Moser have been perpetrating for years. The major card doctors are as responsible as the dishonest auction houses.
JimB

Leon · #4 01-14-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by E93

While I agree with John regarding Hauls of Shame and Nash, I also hope the FBI is investigating the alleged fraud that Schwarts and Moser have been perpetrating for years. The major card doctors are as responsible as the dishonest auction houses.
JimB

They read this board quite a bit and if I were a betting person I would say anything notable gets looked at. This (Magie issue) is notable....

As for Nash, he is allegedly the biggest fraudster in the hobby. Why someone would give him information and be associated with him is beyond me. I guess some people don't care about fraud in the hobby.

slidekellyslide · #5 01-14-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

They read this board quite a bit and if I were a betting person I would say anything notable gets looked at. This (Magie issue) is notable....

As for Nash, he is allegedly the biggest fraudster in the hobby. Why someone would give him information and be associated with him is beyond me. I guess some people don't care about fraud in the hobby.

If you give him a "no comment" he'll probably try and work you into one of his stories.

Leon · #6 01-14-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

If you give him a "no comment" he'll probably try and work you into one of his stories.

I don't think I really need to say anything to get worked into a story

.

slidekellyslide · #7 01-14-2014, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leon

I don't think I really need to say anything to get worked into a story

.

That's because you own the forum that gives him the most grief.

Rich Klein · #8 01-15-2014, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

They read this board quite a bit and if I were a betting person I would say anything notable gets looked at. This (Magie issue) is notable....

As for Nash, he is allegedly the biggest fraudster in the hobby. Why someone would give him information and be associated with him is beyond me. I guess some people don't care about fraud in the hobby.

See this quote from Dan McKee: "One other person who was willing to go on the record about Schwartz was outspoken collector Dan McKee who told us, �Since it seems Gerry was the buyer of the 2 Magee commons used to make the errors, then he should at least be able to tell us who he sold them to so that a trace can be started.�

Remember Dan has all that emnity for PSA from his own experience and thus does not worry about whom he talks to.

Rich

Peter_Spaeth · #9 01-14-2014, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by e93

while i agree with john regarding hauls of shame and nash, i also hope the fbi is investigating the alleged fraud that schwarts and moser have been perpetrating for years. The major card doctors are as responsible as the dishonest auction houses.
Jimb

+1,000.000

And I don't buy the line one hears that it's too hard to prove. Compare purchases, submissions, and consignments/sales.

Iron Horse · #10 01-14-2014, 11:43 PM

Regardless of any personal stuff. If indeed the facts are that these cards were altered, then somehow got graded, and at least one sold. It is troubling. I wonder if Jeff can comment on if the law is investigating this matter as it seems a case which they can get to the bottom of and remove these guys who try to ruin the hobby just like those who shill.
Any info from you guys in the know would be nice

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