PSA authentication and provenance, Possible Ty Cobb HR at Fenway Ticket?

Drift · #1 01-22-2014, 03:15 PM

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thecatspajamas · #2 01-22-2014, 03:58 PM

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...46#88198819224

Take a look at this lot of 1912 stubs offered through Heritage a while back, one of which has the full paragraph of "fine print" at the bottom that is mostly torn off of yours. It reads:

"If legal game is not played, this check may be changed at Box Office for admission to any American League game on these grounds during 1912."

Based on my reading of that, while it is clear that your ticket was used for admission to a game, there is no way to determine exactly what game it was used for, as it could have been used for any game during the remainder of the 1912 season. Unless they had a particular way of marking the stub to indicate the date it was used (which doesn't appear to be the case), it looks to me like the write-up that PSA gave it is as specific as they can get.

Scott Garner · #3 01-22-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thecatspajamas

http://sports.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...46#88198819224

Take a look at this lot of 1912 stubs offered through Heritage a while back, one of which has the full paragraph of "fine print" at the bottom that is mostly torn off of yours. It reads:

"If legal game is not played, this check may be changed at Box Office for admission to any American League game on these grounds during 1912."

Based on my reading of that, while it is clear that your ticket was used for admission to a game, there is no way to determine exactly what game it was used for, as it could have been used for any game during the remainder of the 1912 season. Unless they had a particular way of marking the stub to indicate the date it was used (which doesn't appear to be the case), it looks to me like the write-up that PSA gave it is as specific as they can get.

Good detective work, Lance! I would have to agree with your logic...

That being said, the way that PSA handles annual passes as equivalent to a ticket to an actual individual game, they are pretty footloose and fancy free. If you pay them enough money, it seems as though they have no problem creating a ticket bio that borders on fiction, IMHO.

I personally am not a fan of PSA slabbing tickets...

thecatspajamas · #4 01-22-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Garner

That being said, the way that PSA handles annual passes as equivalent to a ticket to an actual individual game, they are pretty footloose and fancy free.

Hmmm, so I guess by that "annual pass" logic, the submitter should be able to choose any subsequent home game for that season to appear on the flip, since it technically could have been used for any game for the rest of the season.

Yeah, I agree with the disdain for the whole "this could have been used for such and such an event" being on the flip for annual passes and such. Seems like the item should just be labeled for what it is, and leave the inventive storytelling to eBay sellers and auction houses.

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