A Question of Scale

[sycks22]

It is kind of weird that there are a total of 5 grades all in the 80's
80 = 6
82 = 6.5
84 = 7
86 = 7.5
88 = 8

[MVSNYC]

http://www.sgccard.com/grading_scale.htm

Furthermore, a PSA 10 is not equivalent to an SGC 100...

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

http://www.sgccard.com/grading_scale.htm

Furthermore, a PSA 10 is not equivalent to an SGC 100...

I probably couldn't tell the difference , and neither could the novice.

[sreader3]

Even beyond differences in the numerical scoring scales, I think comparing PSA v. SGC is apples to oranges since the companies seem to assign different "weights" to different kinds of imperfections.

For example, I have found that for PSA corners are a bigger deal whereas for SGC centering is a bigger deal. So if you have a crease free T206 with 80/20 centering and strong corners, PSA might give you a 5 whereas SGC will only give you a 4 (50). On the other hand, if you have a crease free T206 with 50/50 centering and soft corners, SGC might give you a 5 (60) whereas PSA will knock you down to a 4.

Just my personal experience.

Edited to add: I'm sure there are counterexamples; i'm just talking in generalities.

[RGold]

I find it ironic that the original poster is the inventor of the Monster Number. You know, that ingenious system where you take the number of cards you have in your T206 set and multiply times 1.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by sreader3

Even beyond differences in the numerical scoring scales, I think comparing PSA v. SGC is apples to oranges since the companies seem to assign different "weights" to different kinds of imperfections.

For example, I have found that for PSA corners are a bigger deal whereas for SGC centering is a bigger deal. So if you have a crease free T206 with 80/20 centering and strong corners, PSA might give you a 5 whereas SGC will only give you a 4 (50). On the other hand, if you have a crease free T206 with 50/50 centering and soft corners, SGC might give you a 5 (60) whereas PSA will knock you down to a 4.

Just my personal experience.

Edited to add: I'm sure there are counterexamples; i'm just talking in generalities.

Agreed. Same with paper loss....


Z Wheat

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by sycks22

It is kind of weird that there are a total of 5 grades all in the 80's
80 = 6
82 = 6.5
84 = 7
86 = 7.5
88 = 8

The SGC system as initially conceived made no sense -- 20 points between a 5 and a 6 and 4 points between a 6 and a 7.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The SGC system as initially conceived made no sense -- 20 points between a 5 and a 6 and 4 points between a 6 and a 7.

Peter, you have summarized my thesis in 26 words or less. I thought lawyers were supposed to use more words to say less or at least make it more difficult to understand.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Peter, you have summarized my thesis in 26 words or less. I thought lawyers were supposed to use more words to say less or at least make it more difficult to understand.

Plaintiff's lawyers.

[egbeachley]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

The SGC system as initially conceived made no sense -- 20 points between a 5 and a 6 and 4 points between a 6 and a 7.

Counterpoint.

The PSA system as initially conceived made no sense -- 1 full point between a 60 and an 80 and also 1 full point between an 80 and an 84.

[E93]

Did anybody notice that SGC also puts the 1-10 scale on their slabs. I just wish they would drop the 100 point scale altogether.
JimB

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by E93

Did anybody notice that SGC also puts the 1-10 scale on their slabs. I just wish they would drop the 100 point scale altogether.
JimB

But that would be too easy. After all...what would you do if they didn't include this puzzle on each slab? We might actually figure out the grade without having to do any special decoding

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

But that would be too easy. After all...what would you do if they didn't include this puzzle on each slab? We might actually figure out the grade without having to do any special decoding

Mike, I suppose it would be some sort of copyright infringement, but there may be a market out there for SGC decoder rings. I'll be in touch.

[Paul S]

What a boring world it would be if every TPG were the same.

[brewing]

Originally Posted by E93

Did anybody notice that SGC also puts the 1-10 scale on their slabs. I just wish they would drop the 100 point scale altogether.

JimB

I agree. You can add this to the SGC registry of things SGC is doing wrong.


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