Brutal PSA Poppage

Mrvintage · #1 01-29-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

yea. im referring to the fact that if you bought it as PSA 4, then cracked it out only to have them come back and say it is trimmed, meaning they missed it was trimmed the first time. im pretty sure that is what has happened.

kevin

This would be the 4th time they have graded the card and SGC has graded it also so I'm pretty sure it is not trimmed

calvindog · #2 01-29-2014, 11:36 AM

Ugh, this is how the pop reports get all screwed up -- which only causes the value of the card to go down.

Mrvintage · #3 01-29-2014, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Ugh, this is how the pop reports get all screwed up -- which only causes the value of the card to go down.

I see your point Jeff, but at the same time just because the pop report says there are X number of cards in a particular grade that doesn't mean that those cards are truly available. Shouldn't supply and demand still determine the value of cards rather than the pop report? For instance lets say that you want a particular card in PSA 9 grade. Just because the pop report says there are 15 of them and you rarely see the card available is that going to influence your buying price when one becomes available? I'm not trying to start an argument just asking an honest question?

calvindog · #4 01-29-2014, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrvintage

I see your point Jeff, but at the same time just because the pop report says there are X number of cards in a particular grade that doesn't mean that those cards are truly available. Shouldn't supply and demand still determine the value of cards rather than the pop report? For instance lets say that you want a particular card in PSA 9 grade. Just because the pop report says there are 15 of them and you rarely see the card available is that going to influence your buying price when one becomes available? I'm not trying to start an argument just asking an honest question?

When I was collecting high grade 50s sets, when I saw a card for sale with a pop 1 in PSA 9, I usually would spend significantly more than when the card had a pop 8 -- even if I hadn't seen it around in PSA 9 recently. I presumed that eventually the others would come about so I wouldn't spend nearly as much. And when I sold my common PSA 9 pop 1s they sold for a hell of a lot more than those which had populations of 5, 6 or 9. Not even close.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 01-29-2014, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

When I was collecting high grade 50s sets, when I saw a card for sale with a pop 1 in PSA 9, I usually would spend significantly more than when the card had a pop 8 -- even if I hadn't seen it around in PSA 9 recently. I presumed that eventually the others would come about so I wouldn't spend nearly as much. And when I sold my common PSA 9 pop 1s they sold for a hell of a lot more than those which had populations of 5, 6 or 9. Not even close.

That'll learn ya for collecting high grade sets. Those 9s are probably all hacked up anyway.

Leon · #6 01-29-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

That'll learn ya for collecting high grade sets. Those 9s are probably all hacked up anyway.

Sadly, as long as it's in a holder does it really matter?

Peter_Spaeth · #7 01-29-2014, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Sadly, as long as it's in a holder does it really matter?

Nope. Thus, the pervasive doctoring of cards.

Peter_Spaeth · #8 01-29-2014, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrvintage

This would be the 4th time they have graded the card and SGC has graded it also so I'm pretty sure it is not trimmed

I know of many many cards that have been on similar journeys until they ended up in their optimal holder. It's pretty scary really. One grade differences on different trips are understandable, but two grade disparities are not and I have seen some as high as 4 grades, not to mention going from altered to unaltered and vice versa.

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