Gilbert and Bacon cards

[Jeffrompa]

Yes it is him . Wish I could say I owned the card .

[TNcollect]

Jeff-- Thanks for taking the time to look and comment on the photograph.

Scott

[aaroncc]

Gilbert & Bacon reached a partnership in 1875. Gilbert retired in 1886 so there is your range C. 1875-1886.

[TNcollect]

Originally Posted by aaroncc

Gilbert & Bacon reached a partnership in 1875. Gilbert retired in 1886 so there is your range C. 1875-1886.

Thanks-- this image is NOT marked by Gilbert & Bacon.

The backdrop is the SAME as used by Gilbert & Bacon on their cabinet cards (1887/ 1888).

Scott

[oldjudge]

Looks like something from the Vermont find. My guess is that it is not period.

[TNcollect]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Looks like something from the Vermont find. My guess is that it is not period.

Thank you very much oldjudge-- I am not familiar with the "Vermont find" and would appreciate whatever information you can share on it.

Scott

[andybecker]

Originally Posted by aaroncc

Gilbert & Bacon reached a partnership in 1875. Gilbert retired in 1886 so there is your range C. 1875-1886.

is it possible gilbert and bacon produced items later than 86? i have a football cabinet that would shock me if it was pre-90.....actually i thought it was mid 90's. i could be wrong.....i'll scan it if anyone wants a look.....

[Joe_G.]

Yes, the Gilbert & Bacon studio was in business well beyond 1886, operating at several different addresses which can help you zero in on a date.

As for the image of Mathews in this thread, it is interesting that he is wearing a different belt and posed in front of a different back drop than found on his 1888 Old Judge cards. So it is likely a different photo-shoot that may or may not be from 1888 although I do believe the original photo could be from Gilbert & Bacon. The same, or similar bat was used by teammates that were photographed in 1888 (same "Louisville KY" inscription). I suspect this particular negative was never sent to Goodwin & Co. for possible use in making his cards (based on it being a separate photo shoot).

[TNcollect]

Thanks Joe, so you think it is of the period?

I took oldjudge's comment to mean a modern item. Are you familiar with the "vermont find" referred to in the earlier posting?

Scott

[Joe_G.]

Originally Posted by TNcollect

Thanks Joe, so you think it is of the period?

I took oldjudge's comment to mean a modern item. Are you familiar with the "vermont find" referred to in the earlier posting?

Scott

It does have the appearance of being a more modern print, but the original negative this is based on dates to 1888 or earlier. As you likely know, Mathews retired before the start of the 1888 season, but I suspect he was with the team for their 1888 photo shoot in the spring of 1888.