Super Bowl - in-depth analysis

t206trader · #1 02-02-2014, 12:22 PM

I just don't see the hawks offense being able to move the ball very effectively in this game. Even if their defense gets stops I'm not seeing the good field position that they have been able to get off other teams after easy three and outs (which will not happen in this game). If Denver jumps out by a score or two early than Seattle will probably start ditching the run. Seattle has played mediocre on the road and I just don't see them pulling this one off. Denver 34 Seattle 24

Runscott · #2 02-02-2014, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by t206trader

I just don't see the hawks offense being able to move the ball very effectively in this game. Even if their defense gets stops I'm not seeing the good field position that they have been able to get off other teams after easy three and outs (which will not happen in this game). If Denver jumps out by a score or two early than Seattle will probably start ditching the run. Seattle has played mediocre on the road and I just don't see them pulling this one off. Denver 34 Seattle 24

Seattle hasn't moved the ball effectively in a long time, but they did score 23 in each of their last two games, against two very good defenses, and Wilson did not have a particularly good day either time. Also, S.F. got out to a 10-0 start, and Carroll kept after them with the run until he wore them down. I don't think Wilson passes any more than he usually does.

Agreed about Seattle on the road - they rely on their fans a lot.

yanks12025 · #3 02-02-2014, 12:57 PM

The only in depth analysis needed is.... Denver will win! After the game we can watch Richard Sherman making a bigger joke then he did two weeks ago.

Runscott · #4 02-02-2014, 01:11 PM

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The only in depth analysis needed is.... Denver will win! After the game we can watch Richard Sherman making a bigger joke then he did two weeks ago.

He's already done that with endorsements that resulted from the Andrews interview and the ones that followed it. Are you referring to additional endorsements, and possibly the game MVP award?

freakhappy · #5 02-02-2014, 01:41 PM

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He's already done that with endorsements that resulted from the Andrews interview and the ones that followed it. Are you referring to additional endorsements, and possibly the game MVP award?

Scott, don't let Brock distract you. Sherman is one of the best defenders in the game and you know that, but he was a total d-bag during his last game. By announcing the Crabtree is mediocre, he proclaimed that he shutdown a mediocre receiver...that's not saying much. Anyway, we know how great both of these teams are and what a good game this should be. Sherman will have his hands full with D. Thomas? and it won't be so easy this time around. That being said, this game could go in a variety of ways and I think the biggest factor is how Denver's D does against Seattle's O. Let's be honest, Lynch is one of the best and he usually always gets his, but I think it will be on Wilson and whether or not he can make a few clutch throws and scramble a bit...this is what makes them so tough to defend. Wilson isn't a great QB, but he's a leader and makes plays when he needs to...let's see how he does on the big stage.

Seattle's D ended up being the best in the league, but Andrew Luck absolutely thrashed them earlier in the year, so we know they can be beat...we'll see though.

I won't be surprised one way or the other, but I'm a Manning fan and more than anything will be rooting for him. If Seattle plays the way they know how, they will be a monster to beat.

DeanH3 · #6 02-02-2014, 02:01 PM

I feel Wilson is underrated. Is he great?? Not right now, but he is the first QB in NFL history to have a passer rating over 100 in their first two seasons. Along with 26 TD's in each season. The same amount Peyton Manning had his first two seasons. I'm not saying Wilson is, or will be, Manning. But he is being overlooked in my opinion. He doesn't do anything flashy but he FINDS a way to win. This kid should only improve with time.

Runscott · #7 02-02-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by freakhappy

Scott, don't let Brock distract you. Sherman is one of the best defenders in the game and you know that, but he was a total d-bag during his last game. By announcing the Crabtree is mediocre, he proclaimed that he shutdown a mediocre receiver...that's not saying much.

Mike, I have been watching the Sherman interview analyses for two weeks now. I haven't missed any of this. Yes, he was a D-bag during the interview. I doubt anyone would argue with that. Before that I was always impressed with his interviews, so this one had me scratching my head more than a Brock post. Erin Andrews' reaction really says it all.

But it's also important to note how Sherman handled it afterward. I watched all of the interviews, and I have an informed opinion of him that isn't much less than before this mess. I'm sure my opinion differs from that of many others. The only danger with his performance today will be if he is overconfident and overplays balls, resulting in long touchdowns - it could certainly happen.

Regarding the Colts game, that was one of only three all year where any team put up any meaningful numbers against Seattle, the Vikings were getting blown out (and still only scored 21), and Tampa Bay scored all their points early because (in my opinion) Seattle didn't take them seriously enough. No one else did much. I still think the Broncos get five scores.

A note on 'Omaha'. Re-watching the AFC Championship game yesterday, one of the announcers confidently stated that Manning uses the word to indicate to his team that the clock is running down and he has to snap it quick. The next three plays the clock was at over 10 seconds each time he said Omaha.

We watched 'Remember the Titans' last night, and guess what word the quarterback used at least once? Maybe Manning got it from that movie.

freakhappy · #8 02-02-2014, 02:18 PM

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Mike, I have been watching the Sherman interview analyses for two weeks now. I haven't missed any of this. Yes, he was a D-bag during the interview. I doubt anyone would argue with that. Before that I was always impressed with his interviews, so this one had me scratching my head more than a Brock post. Erin Andrews' reaction really says it all.

But it's also important to note how Sherman handled it afterward. I watched all of the interviews, and I have an informed opinion of him that isn't much less than before this mess. I'm sure my opinion differs from that of many others. The only danger with his performance today will be if he is overconfident and overplays balls, resulting in long touchdowns - it could certainly happen.

Regarding the Colts game, that was one of only three all year where any team put up any meaningful numbers against Seattle, the Vikings were getting blown out (and still only scored 21), and Tampa Bay scored all their points early because (in my opinion) Seattle didn't take them seriously enough. No one else did much. I still think the Broncos get five scores.

A note on 'Omaha'. Re-watching the AFC Championship game yesterday, one of the announcers confidently stated that Manning uses the word to indicate to his team that the clock is running down and he has to snap it quick. The next three plays the clock was at over 10 seconds each time he said Omaha.

We watched 'Remember the Titans' last night, and guess what word the quarterback used at least once? Maybe Manning got it from that movie.

You know your stuff, Scott and I feel you definitely know the Seahawks. I've been rooting for the Seahawks ever since last year (so bummed when they lost vs. the Falcons) and I think it just took me by surprise when he went off like that...most of those types of rants are in the past and don't happen as much, but I still like the Hawks as a team. Honestly, I'm not going to blame him for it as much as I originally thought because there was a lot of emotion and it is what it is.

I'm not sure about everyone else, but I'm getting really pumped up for this game! I'm very happy the weather shouldn't play a big factor in the game...could have been huge if it were snowing or really cold

The Super Bowl is my favorite game of the year by far

familytoad · #9 02-02-2014, 02:12 PM

It is rare for me to watch the Super Bowl with any strong ties to the winner...
I typically hope for a close game and hope to get good numbers in my squares

But that's because the Seahawks, Saints and Dolphins are not usually playing!!

This time its all about cheering "my" team to victory.
I know the 12th man is real in Seattle, I've been there when you cannot speak to the person next to you and man, its fun to attend.
This time the yelling will be in my own living room, but maybe it will still work!

I think the Seahawks can win because they will be free to assign a linebacker to blitz or cover the short timing passes. They had to spy on Kaepernick last game and that took some of fhe flexibility from that great defense. It will be crucial to get Manning moving in the pocket as he is not as effective when he has to avoid the rush. He won't have wide open receivers to pass to either like he has recently against underwhelming defenses. When Talib went down for the Pats early in the AFC Championship game, they were toast.

And as always, the key to stopping a top QB is to not let him have the ball.
Beast Mode to keep the clock running and Wilson escaping pressure to keep the chains moving. Of course, the Broncos know this but these two guys are special football players. Not since Earl Campbell days have I seen a RB more fun to watch than Marshawn Lynch. That man refuses to be tackled easily. You bring him down and you have EARNED it!

I don't expect a lot of statisical success from the 'Hawks...just solid, well coached football to win the game.
Plus, I'll be "coaching" from the sidelines of my easy chair too, so we should be able to conquer this game.

Defense wins Championships!

Runscott · #10 02-02-2014, 02:39 PM

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I think the Seahawks can win because they will be free to assign a linebacker to blitz or cover the short timing passes.

I like this idea a lot. If they are allowed to, they will make slightly early hits and disrupt some of the timing plays, and if the receivers get held up at the line, the linebackers will have even more influence. My understanding is that the refs calling this game have not called a lot of penalties this year.

DeanH3 · #11 02-02-2014, 01:05 PM

Keep in mind. Seattle has faced a top 6 defense 5 out of their last 7 games. SF twice, N.O. twice and Ariz. The other 2 games were against Rams and Giants. Those are not horrible defenses by any means. Denver's D is nowhere near the same league as the Niners or Ariz. Teams Seattle has played against 5 times this year. I'm hoping Seattle's offense can get going against Denver's D.

DeanH3 · #12 02-02-2014, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by t206trader

I just don't see the hawks offense being able to move the ball very effectively in this game. Even if their defense gets stops I'm not seeing the good field position that they have been able to get off other teams after easy three and outs (which will not happen in this game). If Denver jumps out by a score or two early than Seattle will probably start ditching the run. Seattle has played mediocre on the road and I just don't see them pulling this one off. Denver 34 Seattle 24

Seattle was 6-2 on the road this year. Not too shabby. I believe the Bronco's were also 6-2 on the road.

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