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Since they are not graded, can I assume that they are not included in any Pop Report? 
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I also like the subtle differences on the reverse as well. Great thread... Argghhhhhh....
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02-16-2014, 09:12 AM
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Just a thought
Maybe a dumb question, but has anyone done research/been to the Philippines in search of these cards? It's been mentioned in the thread that for the cards to have survived, they would have had to make it back to the US in a soldiers footlocker, etc..., but wouldn't soldiers regularly trade goods like cigarettes and chocolate bars with locals for other goods that they needed/wanted? If that was the case, most of the cards would have likely been discarded as pictures of US baseball players would not have meant anything to Filipinos. But perhaps some of the cards may have been saved and are still in the country. My dad was stationed in Manila during WWII, but I never really asked him about the people or country while he was alive.
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Also, Leon gave it away. 
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02-16-2014, 03:41 PM
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Steve,
Good idea but, in my opionion, probably wouldn't find very many cards, if any. My reasons why; 1) If the cards were printed in England and given to US soldiers who went to the Philippines and then the cards were left there you have to wonder how well known baseball was in the Philippines 100 years ago. Even if well known, you have to wonder how many people would have actively collected the cards there. 2) Even if there were some people who collected the cards, after 100 years in a place that is hot, humid and prone to typhoons and floods, how many of the limited supply of cards would remain? Think about Coupon cigarette cards here in the US. Many, if not most, were printed here in the US and distributed around the Louisiana area. Now think about how many of those that remain. It is probable that many multiples of those were printed, compared to Pirate cigarettes, and distributed here, where baseball was well known, popular and the cards were collected. Yet because of the humidity and the weather, Coupon cards are harder to find than T206's. Any way, just my thoughts, I could be very wrong. There could be a guy in the Philippines who has thousands of Pirate cigarette baseball cards squirreled away..... David
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02-17-2014, 07:14 AM
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Baseball caught on pretty good in the Philippines after the insurrection ended. The Manila League was a pretty good circuit with many military teams, including the 25th Infantry team that featured Oscar Charleston among others. The Marines had a very good team in the league and famous General Smedley Butler coached. Most US Navy ships had teams and would play when in port.
I've collected items from sailors stationed in China from the 1900's to the 30's and you'd be suprized by the things they carefully tucked away and brought back home - beer labels, luggage tags, handbills for tailors, etc - all perfectly preserved by tucking them into pages of albums and book. Some of that stuff looks like it was made yesterday, that's why I can see some Pirates surviving in great shape. Perhaps someday I'll find one of them tucked away as well! I know nothing about the way they were issued, but if they were made by a British company, they most likely weren't sold in the Philippines (where American goods were sold) but in Shanghai, Canton or Hong Kong which were British or British controlled areas and American ships frequently stopped.
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