OT - Best 3B ever?

[EvilKing00]

Ahhh finally someone who actually looked at the numbers!

Originally Posted by chipperhank44

Feel like this thread is pretty biased by "good ole days syndrome"

We can argue all day about the best overall 3B, but those who will not admit that Chipper is the best hitting 3B ever have simply let their emotions cloud their judgement.

Chipper had a .401 Career OBP and .529 Career SLG. Both better than Schmidt and Brett. His OPS is 22 and 43 points higher than Schmidt and Brett respectively.

Sure Schmidt hit more HR than Chipper, but Chipper still managed to have more RBI (aren't RBI the intrinsic value of a HR?).

Also, Despite Schmidt's HR lead, both Brett and Chipper have more career XBH than Schmidt.

For their Careers Chipper and Brett both walked more than they struck out, Schmidt did not.

This isn't apples to apples, but Chipper also hit .300 from both sides of the plate.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yeah I looked at the numbers too.

Schmidt


Black Ink Batting - 74 (11), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink Batting - 224 (31), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 250 (23), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 56 (57), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Third Base (1st), 106.5 career WAR/58.6 7yr-peak WAR/82.5 JAWS


Jones

Black Ink Batting - 4 (426), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink Batting - 107 (202), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 180 (57), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 70 (16), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Third Base (5th), 85.2 career WAR/46.6 7yr-peak WAR/65.9 JAWS

[CMIZ5290]

I'm still trying to figure out the kudos that were given to Pie Traynor and Jimmy Collins

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

I'm still trying to figure out the kudos that were given to Pie Traynor and Jimmy Collins

Jimmy Collins

Black Ink Batting - 6 (350), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink Batting - 128 (140), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 42 (455), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 26 (442), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Third Base (21st), 53.3 career WAR/38.5 7yr-peak WAR/45.9 JAWS


Traynor

Black Ink Batting - 2 (610), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink Batting - 134 (127), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 96 (176), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 43 (131), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Third Base (58th), 36.1 career WAR/25.6 7yr-peak WAR/30.9 JAWS

[CMIZ5290]

I grew up in Atlanta and I am a die hard Braves fan. Having said that, they have broken my heart over the years way too many times, way too many....The Braves should have won at least 3 World Series, and I think the discussion of C. Jones as the best ever at that position would be a lot stronger if that had been the case...JMO

[frankbmd]

It is truly amazing that everyone seems to have changed their mind in this thread based on the arguments of others.

Wait a minute, come to think of it, I don't think anyone has changed their mind based on the arguments of others.

Remember that the gerbil in the wheel always ends up in the place where he started. Carry on.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by EvilKing00

Ahhh finally someone who actually looked at the numbers!

did you deduct the appropriate numbers for Larry being a %$#*&@ Atlanta Brave???