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Old 02-19-2014, 06:29 AM
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Bill, I have 2 players that are more deserving than Maz and Rice. Whitaker and Richie Allen.


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Black Ink Batting - 16 (143), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink Batting - 93 (253), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 90 (194), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 29 (364), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Third Base (48th), 37.5 career WAR/27.8 7yr-peak WAR/32.7 JAWS
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Black Ink Batting - 16 (143), Average HOFer ≈ 27

Gray Ink Batting - 93 (253), Average HOFer ≈ 144

Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 90 (194), Likely HOFer ≈ 100

Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 29 (364), Average HOFer ≈ 50

JAWS Third Base (48th), 37.5 career WAR/27.8 7yr-peak WAR/32.7 JAWS
Those still rank better than:
Black Ink Batting - 3 (532), Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray Ink Batting - 57 (443), Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 56 (356), Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 26 (428), Average HOFer ≈ 50
JAWS Third Base (70th), 28.4 career WAR/26.3 7yr-peak WAR/27.3 JAWS
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That must be Lindstrom LOL, mine is Kell.
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Brent, I always have a hard time saying that a player is more or less deserving to be in Cooperstown than another player, especially if the latter is already in. I know part of the process is political, but the guys in the Hall are there for a reason, though some are more deserving at first glance.

It's easy to look at Mazerowski's numbers in 2014, and not be impressed. But there just weren't that many great offensive second basemen between 1940 and 1980. The Jackie Robinsons, Nellie Foxes, Rod Carews and Joe Morgans were the exception, not the rule. Eddie Collins, Frankie Frisch, Charlie Gehringer, Rogers Hornsby and Napolean Lajoie played before that era. Ryne Sandberg, Craig Biggio, Roberto Alomar and Jeff Kent were after.

I agree with you on Lou Whitaker (Alan Trammell, too) and Dick Allen both. They deserve a serious second look.
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