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Old 02-21-2014, 12:10 PM
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This is getting to be unhealthy. I understand being upset but posting all of this material is not a good idea.
Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.
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Dumb question, but does the Peter Nash post on this board? Im assuming the Prime Minister does not.
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John--Robert made his point and then some. His posts are at this point are getting really old, really quick. I don't mean to minimize what Peter has done, but enough is enough here. I agree with the prior poster, move future posts about this somewhere else and give other readers the joy of Robert's prose.
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Yeah, much better to discuss for the 100th time people's favorite T206 portraits or background color.
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now that's funny....
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Old 02-21-2014, 03:38 PM
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John--Robert made his point and then some. His posts are at this point are getting really old, really quick. I don't mean to minimize what Peter has done, but enough is enough here. I agree with the prior poster, move future posts about this somewhere else and give other readers the joy of Robert's prose.
Jay, I would agree that it's getting a little bit long in the tooth and it would be nice if Robert was to outline a plan or be a bit clearer on things. With that said I also agree with Peter and sort feel the same.

There are countless threads about the same topics over and over on here just the nature of the beast. It also doesn’t stop lots of folks starting their own threads on other stuff that is very self-serving i.e. guess my grades, look at my progress etc. at least this thread is hobby news that can affect us all vs. what grades your recent submission got.

If it gives Robert a little happiness to vent I can tolerate it or ignore the post I guess more than others.I only wish so many who chime in on Robert’s posts were as vocal against Peter Nash and his shenanigans, at the end of the day Robert is a victim and not the bad guy here.
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Concerning Peter Nash............And if I find out which ID it is he will be banned in a heartbeat as he has been before. Now, if he wants to man up and come in under his own name.....he is more than welcome on the forum. But he can't be a puss and be anonymous.


As for this thread being here and on the main forum. Seems fine to me. It's a big issue and the more it gets seen the better. But that is just my opinion....
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Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.



If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.

John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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Old 02-21-2014, 06:48 PM
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John - I think having am entire thread devoted to a personal matter is not appropriate. It also seems border line harassment to me. Let me be clear that I am not picking sides as I don't know either person and was not around when any of this happened.


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Alex, fair enough. I will say that I find your reasons a bit hard to follow. Just the sentence above....you have no knowledge of the people or the circumstances yet you draw the conclusion its harassment and not appropriate?

Second having a thread all to ones self for personal reasons is pretty much this entire site. How many threads are about such things as.....

I bought this so is it real?
Can somebody put me in touch with someone else?
Please look at my progress on this set thus far....
Has anyone bought from this seller? I want to buy from him....
Please guess my grades, I think I was robbed.
Does my card looked trimmed?

There are plenty of threads that are started for self serving reasons I don't see this as any different. Perhaps less innocent but at the same time more impactful to many as this is about fraud which effects us all vs. the PSA 3 someone got vs the EX they were expecting so rally to my aid thread.

Just my two cents and the great part about a single thread is I can always ignore it. Now if Robert starts posting in every thread the same stuff no matter the topic I would agree.

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Then there are the threads of general interest. SGC v PSA v101.2. Fake Honus Wagner on ebay.
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Then there are the threads of general interest. SGC v PSA v101.2. Fake Honus Wagner on ebay.
What there's a fake Wagner on eBay link please?
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Read back a couple pages, and realized there was no need for my post regarding some people questioning the placement this thread. IMO, I think it's perfectly relevant to our hobby, and can serve a positive purpose. Go team.
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As long as Peter Nash is slinging mud on his blog I have no problem with Robert using a thread or two to strike back. Nash is a hypocrite, and the more he is exposed the safer the hobby is from him. Anyone having a problem with this thread is free to skip it or put Mr Fraser on your ignore list.
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I just wish I could afford to make him an offer on one or two of his 'Nuf Ced' items.
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Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.
But John, that would mean everyone would have to be responsible for their own actions rather than having other people do it for them.
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I like Robert, Dan and John. All are interesting, intelligent and opinionated (proactive defense)

Robert's the only one who is really seriously affected adversely by any of this - it's just frustrating to not hear any sort of meaningful plan from him, since after all, he is posting all of this stuff on our vintage baseball card discussion forum, not on his own 'Peter Nash is an A-Hole' Forum. Being a member only of the former, and being in that venue at this exact moment, I feel justified in stating that opinion. Hope it's okay.
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I like Robert, Dan and John. All are interesting, intelligent and opinionated (proactive defense)

Robert's the only one who is really seriously affected adversely by any of this - it's just frustrating to not hear any sort of meaningful plan from him, since after all, he is posting all of this stuff on our vintage baseball card discussion forum, not on his own 'Peter Nash is an A-Hole' Forum. Being a member only of the former, and being in that venue at this exact moment, I feel justified in stating that opinion. Hope it's okay.
There may not be a hell of a lot he can do. It seems in terms of Nash's own assets he appears to be behind REA and perhaps other creditors. It seems Nash no longer is in possession of the specific items he has been ordered to return to Robert. So maybe Robert is hoping these posts bring out information someone may have about the whereabouts of the items.
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But John, that would mean everyone would have to be responsible for their own actions rather than having other people do it for them.
Hahaha .... oh wait you were being serious?
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Robert, why is Nash the plaintiff in the suit against REA?
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Robert, why is Nash the plaintiff in the suit against REA?
Looks like he is claiming ownership of the Tenney stuff?
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Looks like he is claiming ownership of the Tenney stuff?
Yes Nash did, he claimed Rick Tenney gave him the Tenney collection. I talked to Rick many times and he said Nash is a liar. Rick Tenney filed a police report on Peter Nash in Cooperstown, NY. I posted the police report before but I'll post it again just in case someone hasn't seen it.

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Robert, thanks for clarifying your plans over the last few posts.

Does NOT having Nash thrown in jail accomplish anything for you?
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Robert, why is Nash the plaintiff in the suit against REA?
Peter Nash sued Rob Lifson for selling the 1912 first pitched ball at the grand opening of Fenway Park. Peter Nash consigned the ball to Rob Lifson as collateral, see link

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/.../2007/882.html

I was friends with Nash at the time and I remember Nash going crazy that his 1912 ball was being sold in Lifson's 2007 spring auction. This is the same ball that Nash tried to sell me 49 percent ownership in for $250,000, the same ball Nash wanted to cut up into little 2 inch threats and told me we would net 23 million dollars. Nash started the lawsuit claiming Lifson couldn't sell it because Nash had sold one percent of the ball for $2,500. You know the rest of the story, Lifson counter sued and Nash lost admitting to fraud. Apparently Nash must have believed he could net 23 million dollars by cutting up the ball, I realize it's delusional but why else would he start such a pathetic lawsuit against Lifson.
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Why is it not a good idea Alex? It has to do with fraud in our hobby. At least what is being posted is factual documents not hearsay and sources.

If Robert wants to use this public forum as an avenue to try and add more pressure and awareness on the frauds committed by Peter Nash why should that be an issue? The thread title is pretty self-explanatory and you’ve visited the thread so you know roughly what it’s about. So ignore the thread if you think it’s unhealthy.
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