1910 Spalding Guide NL Zack Wheat Brooklyn Dodgers slabbed NM-MT 8 magazine cut outs

[jjcollects]

I would appreciate your expertise and knowledge about them. As I cannot find many of these on the market.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by jjcollects

I would appreciate your expertise and knowledge about them. As I cannot find many of these on the market.

http://library.si.edu/digital-librar...se19091910chic

It is page 112 of the 1910 Spalding's base ball gudie. It was cut out of a book that as a whole should be collected, so most people do not like that just single pages out of an entire collectible would be cut out.

An entire book can be bought, so most don't want just one page.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SPALDINGS-OF...item35d1c45fab

[jjcollects]

Thanks for input. I would assume many collectors would prefer the pages as they would be a lot cheaper than buying the book at that price

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by jjcollects

Thanks for input. I would assume many collectors would prefer the pages as they would be a lot cheaper than buying the book at that price

The price is only 7x that of your price of one page. The book has more than seven photos. So the most cost effective way to get the photos is to buy the book. Also, again, most seasoned collectors don't want these in the market because it means someone cut up a full book.


FWIW, I wouldn't have gotten involved as I don't think it is polite to interject in a BST, but you did ask for more info.

[jjcollects]

Didn't intend to be rude, just stating my opinion. I did not cut up the pages as I don't own a magazine. These were purchased from Lelands a highly reputable dealer who is a net54 sponsor. I'm just listing as that is what I do buy and sell.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by jjcollects

Didn't intend to be rude, just stating my opinion. I did not cut up the pages as I don't own a magazine. These were purchased from Lelands a highly reputable dealer who is a net54 sponsor. I'm just listing as that is what I do buy and sell.

I didn't think you were rude, I just didn't want to come off like I was tearing you or your business/hobby down. I wanted to be clear that I wouldn't have interjected if you hadn't asked. Until there is an official rule against these you are welcome to add them, but now you will know for the future what it is your are actually selling.

[novakjr]

I'm not intending to insult here, please don't take it that way. Just offering a little insight into what these really are, and what they generally sell for.

I'll start with addressing the slab and grade. Regardless of where these were purchased, or how much was paid. The slab and grade mean absolutely nothing in regards to this item.. Firstly, the grading company, really isn't a company, but rather a guy who sealed 'em up and threw random numbers on them.. Secondly, the numbers will never be considered legit, because we are not dealing with a complete item. BVG which WILL "encapsulate" these(only if it's a full page), will ONLY technically authenticate them, and even that's just a formality for labeling and flip purposes, to go along with the encapsulation.. It's often debated whether or not BVG should even be doing this...

These cutouts, at best, when they pop up on the bay, generally sell for $5 or less, plus shipping. With the notable exceptions being the late 19th century woodcuts, Negro league teams, extremely obscure players(like luis sockalexis and Moonlight Graham), or "very" early team shots with absolute mega-stars like Ruth and Cobb. And for the most part, those don't really sell for a whole lot more than the earlier quoted prices for random pages..

These encapsulated ones, sometimes do sell for more, but not because they are worth more, BUT because some poor inexperienced collector has absolutely no idea what they are actually buying. Which is usually the intention of the seller(again, that statement was not directed towards you), or at the very least was the intention with which they were encapsulated this way in the first place.. Basically, these were slabbed this way by a scammer.. Net54 generally doesn't have the type of novices that would be in the market for these..

Next, they "type" that you have here, rarely sell, even for the $5 or less prices. The only types that seem to have ANY minimal value are generally the single player portraits(assuming they were full page), the full, standard team photos, or the composite types that emulate the w601 Sporting Life premiums... Basically, the type you have here, really has no displayable visual appeal. Which, aside from the few exceptions that I noted earlier, is really one of the only reason that these sell in the first place.