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Old 03-03-2014, 10:44 AM
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I actually communicated privately with Nate on this one. There was absolutely no way he could win so I advised, informally, taking the high road the way he did. To me it made the most sense, unless he wants to continue the angst over spilled milk. I would have done the same thing. Take care of small issues, even though it might be to your disadvantage, so you can concentrate on positive stuff and do better than if you concentrated on the small, losing battle.
So just let someone steal $100 from you and say eff it, go ahead and keep it I am above caring? No thanks, that would not be my approach.
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Old 03-03-2014, 11:16 AM
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So just let someone steal $100 from you and say eff it, go ahead and keep it I am above caring? No thanks, that would not be my approach.
I don't think anyone is advocating not caring, but is it worth it to put the care, time and effort into it?

Perhaps you're really only suggesting that the process be followed of letting the buyer open a case, and letting eBay provide adjudication, which I can understand. I think what we're saying is that the result is known, as this is not a normal judge of wrongdoing - in that they are completely biased, and the evidence for which is rather overwhelming by nearly every seller's personal experiences. If that's not what you would suggest, I think everyone would like to hear your opinion as to what could be done instead.
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If anyone knows Carl Icahn, the billionaire investor, or wants to take the time and write to him or his company, he currently is feuding with the upper management of eBay. He thinks they are mismanaging eBay and are not doingthings to promote shareholder value.

I think if enough people wrote to him and told him horror stories like these then he might see that all of these little things are hurting the bottom line and he might do something about it....

If not, then at least some people tried and let somebody who COULD do something about this crap know what was going on....

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Old 03-03-2014, 12:40 PM
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If anyone knows Carl Icahn, the billionaire investor, or wants to take the time and write to him or his company, he currently is feuding with the upper management of eBay. He thinks they are mismanaging eBay and are not doingthings to promote shareholder value.

I think if enough people wrote to him and told him horror stories like these then he might see that all of these little things are hurting the bottom line and he might do something about it....

If not, then at least some people tried and let somebody who COULD do something about this crap know what was going on....

David

You mean like raising fees? The idea of promoting shareholder value is what put Ebay on it's downward slope to begin with, as soon as they went public is when they started bleeding everybody dry...........just so they could try and keep up with shareholder demands.

I'm not sure I want the real-life Gordan Gecko making decisions over at Ebay.
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You mean like raising fees? The idea of promoting shareholder value is what put Ebay on it's downward slope to begin with, as soon as they went public is when they started bleeding everybody dry...........just so they could try and keep up with shareholder demands.

I'm not sure I want the real-life Gordan Gecko making decisions over at Ebay.
The day they went public was the beginning of their efforts to mirror Amazon.
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The day they went public was the beginning of their efforts to mirror Amazon.
Yup, which I never understood, since they were always more profitable then Amazon.

I'm not going to pretend like I understand all aspects of the situation, but that's also when they started buying up more assets, infrastructure, competitors, Paypal, etc...

Creating an infrastructure they didn't have before. Perhaps they think that's worth far more then profits on paper when they eventually get bought out by somebody like Icahn, who sees value in breaking the company up into pieces.

Not a great move for the foot soldiers in the company, but great for the upper level management, looking to retire early and become "philanthropists" with the embarrassment of riches they balloon out on.
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Hearing this stuff makes me sick...

Is there any way we have one spot on N54 with a list of all of the ID's of these idiots so we can go to one place and find them?

I would assume we would all want to restrict them from bidding on our items on ebay.

I guess I'd have to talk to Leon.

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I must be the luckiest seller on EBAY. I have 2 ids, one for my Daughters stuff and one for my Sports stuff. I have total of over 3200 feedbacks on buying and selling, most for selling.

I can only remember 2 problems, of course not counting when buyers were not satisfied with condition of sold items. These were ironed out.

1) Sold some Comic books, they were packed in a box that once contained a coffee grinder. He told me he only received a coffee grinder. The buyer opened a case against me, he said he did not receive the comics. After communication with ebay I won the case. The only thing I can figure the comic guy sitting there in his apartment with boxes of comics all over the place finally opened the coffee grinder box, Wala!!!l there were the comics.

2) Sold a doll or something like that, customer was not satisfied. I told her to send the item back and I would refund her money. She wanted her money 1st and I refused. In the end, no more contact from her. She must have successfully done this before.

Wish I was so lucky with the Lottery.

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So just let someone steal $100 from you and say eff it, go ahead and keep it I am above caring? No thanks, that would not be my approach.
I care but I wouldn't put in more time to recoup the hundred than it would take for me to make the money back. But if that is your MO you may be my guest. While you are scrambling for the hundred (that was already determined not to be doable) I will make two hundred. To each their own.... I do my best not to concentrate on negativity, even if it means I lose a few bucks, in the long run, it works for me.
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I care but I wouldn't put in more time to recoup the hundred than it would take for me to make the money back. But if that is your MO you may be my guest. While you are scrambling for the hundred (that was already determined not to be doable) I will make two hundred. To each their own.... I do my best not to concentrate on negativity, even if it means I lose a few bucks, in the long run, it works for me.
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