Cy Young in 8.5 on Ebay

[Frank A]

I've never had a GAI card not cross over. Some the same grade, some up or down one.

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Frank A

I've never had a GAI card not cross over. Some the same grade, some up or down one.

Consider yourself lucky, and I'd advise quitting while you are ahead

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by Frank A

I've never had a GAI card not cross over. Some the same grade, some up or down one.

Keep in mind there's been a couple of reincarnations of GAI
The initial company founded by Steve Rochhi & Mike Baker were OK in the beginning.

[buymycards]

There are other problems with this card that, in my opinion, would keep this card from grading 8.5. What is with the big green dot on the front of the card? Look at the back, the "R" in cigarettes seems to be filled in with ink. Plus, there is a long print mark on the back, along with a couple of smudges. There is some chipping near the bottom of the left border.

I can't see this card being an 8.5 even if it is not trimmed.

[smtjoy]

I wonder how many times it's been sent in for crossover already, i'm sure more than a few times.

I also wonder how high it will be shilled..... err I mean bid up to.

[JollyRoger]

At least it's in the old style holder. I wouldn't buy anything in their newer style case. I have quite a few GAI graded cards, some higher end, and I personally don't see anything wrong with the cards, but I'm not a grader. All grading companies make mistakes, PSA and SGC included. It's been said a million times before, pay what you're comfortable with. Don't buy the holder. For what it's worth, from the scans provided, the top of the card looks fishy to me. But as I said, I'm not a grader.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by smtjoy

I wonder how many times it's been sent in for crossover already, i'm sure more than a few times.

I also wonder how high it will be shilled..... err I mean bid up to.

I know it is not often you get such a high class grading company and honest seller all in one auction.

Just remember bid high and bid often because the shiller will.LOL

[D.P.Johnson]

Originally Posted by bnorth

I know it is not often you get such a high class grading company and honest seller all in one auction.

Man that's funny!

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by buymycards

There are other problems with this card that, in my opinion, would keep this card from grading 8.5. What is with the big green dot on the front of the card? Look at the back, the "R" in cigarettes seems to be filled in with ink. Plus, there is a long print mark on the back, along with a couple of smudges. There is some chipping near the bottom of the left border.

I can't see this card being an 8.5 even if it is not trimmed.

The marks are from the printing process here is another one with the
same marks.

Patrick

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Keep in mind there's been a couple of reincarnations of GAI
The initial company founded by Steve Rochhi & Mike Baker were OK in the beginning.

+1...As a matter of fact, their cards initially were selling for more than comparable PSA cards. However, that was in the initial stages of the company. This young card in my opinion is definitely trimmed....

[MyGuyTy]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

+1...As a matter of fact, there cards initially were selling for more than comparable PSA cards.

I remember those days, the prices on Ebay used to be a little higher for the original GAIs when they first started showing up. Good memory

[t206hof]

I agree. Now that I look at it again, it for sure looks trimmed. Ohhh yes shill bidder galore.

[EvilKing00]

I have never bought a gia card, i always stay clear.
Being slabed by gia makes me not want it.

[calvindog]

The chances of someone owning a legitimate 8.5 graded HOF player in a GAI slab and not trying to cross it to SGC/PSA are zero.

The chances of any card selling in a Probstein or PWCC auction which does not contain numerous underbidders who bid primarily in their auctions (i.e. shills) are close to zero.

Add those two issues together and you have a full-fledged disaster on your hands.