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03-10-2014, 09:43 AM
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Wow I am impressed by all the love & compassion in these posts (note the sarcasm of a widow reading about her husband). As I read all these, especially the bashing towards Eric putting "God Bless" on his auctions, is nothing short of sad. Eric WAS a reputable person in all aspects of his life. I know I lived it with him since we were 15 years old! He just recently died right after he turned 50 in the hospital from a rare type of liver cancer. I do pray, yes I said pray, this never happens to any of you to later have your family read this atrocity that bashes your good name. I know for fact as I was home with Eric daily, he did not & would not altar cards! I have been through all his stuff only to find out he was a better person than I even thought. He never ever was ashamed to share that he loved God & wanted to put it in his listings & always had. With all this said, I would seriously hope you would honor a man by deleting your posts. I already know Leon does not delete & that's his prerogative but you all have the chance to be honorable men & delete on your end these old posts. I found these, he had mentioned them at one time but never let it get him down. He did not focus on negativity & I know his grand kids would love to NOT read this one day. Would you want this to be your legacy? Thank u, gentlemen & enjoy life it seriously is way too short. Make the best of it like Eric/waverly82 did each moment til death.
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03-10-2014, 03:48 PM
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With all due respect to the now deceased Mr. Breitenbach, and his widow, and their family, in this the age of the internet, the reputation a person develops while living, is the reputation their family will "have" to read about if they choose to use google as a form of therapy after said person is gone.
So, what we all learn from this resurrected post, is that we should live life in such a way that we will allow our google searching grandchildren to enjoy our legacy. Best regards, Doug Goodman PS - when you now google my name, note that I do not raise cadaver dogs. Last edited by doug.goodman; 03-10-2014 at 03:57 PM.
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03-11-2014, 06:29 AM
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I hope no one changes a thing. Death isn't a dry cleaning for one's past. If you were a jackhole in life you deserve to be remembered that way. Perhaps his grandkids can learn from this thread that if you profess one set of morals while living another you will get called out for your hypocrisy and remembered for what you were not what you would like to have been seen as. PS: the word is "alter" not "altar".
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03-11-2014, 06:48 AM
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I had nothing to do with this thread or the gentleman that was discussed originally, but I am disgusted at how this woman has been treated. It is fairly easy to believe her as there is an obituary of this man online (http://www.stithfuneralhome.net/cgi-...103:Lcgi_html/).
If this grieving woman came here hoping to hold on to her husband's memory a little longer no one can fault her that she may be hurt even more to see what other's feelings were towards this man she loved/loves. She made the request, I can believe, any grieving spouse would make in that time of loss. If you don't want to satisfy her request there is no reason to keep the thread going by posting how you don't agree with her.
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03-11-2014, 07:01 AM
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Maybe we could remove his name though, after some time. I think that seems a legitimate request, but to remove the thread altogether isn't acceptable for the time being.. Last edited by novakjr; 03-11-2014 at 07:04 AM.
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03-11-2014, 11:43 AM
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With all due respect, you're way off base here - in fact, not even in the ballpark. Waverly had a reputation of doctoring cards that goes back many, many years. Just go the the CU boards and search "Waverly" and you'll get several thread results, not one of them shed a good light on him. Here is one from over 8 years ago that speaks of his card doctoring... http://forums.collectors.com/message...yword1=waverly Doug hit the nail on the head in his post. The reputation one develops while living is the one that will be remembered when they are gone. Besides, it's not like where bashing him after his death. If that was the case, you would have a valid point. But this thread is a few years old. Did everybody go back and edit their comments about Bruce after his passing? David makes a valid point as well. Surely he has inventory left that will be sold at some point. People need to know that there is the possibiltiy of the cards being altered. Last, if she wouldn't have bumped the thread, his name probably never would have been mentioned again on these boards. David ************************************** Edited to add: Read this eBay description as well... http://cgi.ebay.com/1963-TOPPS-PETE-...#ht_213wt_1186 Last edited by vintagetoppsguy; 03-11-2014 at 11:55 AM.
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03-11-2014, 12:32 PM
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I NEVER said you should delete posts. In actuality I didn't even take a side. What I am saying is that there is no reason to lash out at the request of a mourning widow. If you don't agree with her request than move on. Especially since of the all the comments up til yours was not even from people in the original posts. You can do whatever you want with your post as you are one of the original posts. I really don't care, but there is no reason why her post couldn't have just been the last of it. Or at maybe the most a post from previous posters, like yourself, stating that you respectfully decline to delete your previous post.
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03-11-2014, 12:53 PM
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Andy, silence can often be interpreted as consent or agreement. I have no idea if this dealer did the things of which he was accused. I have no idea whether she is legitimate or a troll. Neither matters. Regardless of whether someone is alive or dead, the posts made here are part of the history of the hobby that shouldn't be rewritten, especially since the people who made the original posts were victims of a fraud that they believe this dealer perpetrated, simply because the dealer died.
David is spot-on as well; had she not made her post this thread would have been long gone and forgotten absent a Google search. She knows Leon won't delete the thread ["I already know Leon does not delete & that's his prerogative"], so she decided to post something publicly to shame all of us [and I include myself in that "us" even though I had no part in the original discussion] by stating that "honorable" people would delete this "atrocity". When someone comes into our community making demands and calling names, pushback is to be expected.
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03-12-2014, 08:46 PM
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I find it a bit odd that she makes such a request but then has not been back on Net54 since. According to her stats in her profile the last time she visited the site was the same time she posted her only post. Sort of like a hit and run IMO.
Drew
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03-11-2014, 06:56 AM
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Also religious beliefs, isn't a reason as to why someone would NOT doctor cards.. In fact, I almost think it could support it. Given the "idolatric" nature that fans often regard athletes, including cards/collectibles, it would actually make sense that an extreme religious person, might find acceptable, perhaps even encourage, the doctoring of cards, in order to taint our "false idols" and teach us the lesson that we are not living on the path of God.. And profit from said actions, could possibly be justified, under the guise of doing God's work, by clearing that path to righteousness for others.. Sorry, for that. Nothing against religion. I actually consider myself to be quite spiritual, BUT there are some extreme nuts, that I wouldn't put this thought process past.. I also don't want it to seem that I think that these were his/her intentions, but just discussing holes in the "religious defense" for someone not doctoring cards.. Last edited by novakjr; 03-11-2014 at 07:03 AM.
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