Baseball signed by Honus Wagner, Ralph Kiner, Hank Greenberg, + Others

[pbspelly]

From what I understand (and you should know that I may well be the least knowledgeable person on this board) there are tons of things that go into the value of a signed ball. I have a ball kind of like the one you have, with about 15 Detroit Tigers' signatures on it, including Greenberg, Newhouser, Gehringer, Birdie Tibbetts, Dutch Meyer, and a few others. I took it to a dealer once who told me that it would actually be worth more if it only had Hank on it. That having other signatures, even of guys like Gehringer, actually decreased the value over a solosigned ball. Seemed odd to me, but that's what I was told. On the other hand, he said that since Hank had signed right under the label, that made it more valuable than if he had signed on the side. But the fact that they had all signed the ball at a reunion event, well after their playing careers were over, made it worth less. Never ended up selling it, but he said it was probably worth three or four hundred. Not even enough to buy textbooks.

[bender07]

A picture would help for sure but based on those names, you're looking at $1000 or $1500 in good condition. I would hold on to it and continue passing it down.

[ctownboy]

pbspelly,

This is why I am very leery of single signed baseballs; a scam artist can buy a multi-signed ball, erase the names of the other people and then sell the single signed ball for more money.

As far as the original poster and their question, if you can not post a picture at least you could say if the baseball has a stamp on it telling who the Commissioner or President of the league was. IF there is a stamp like this then people who know about baseballs can tell you approximately when the ball was made and if THAT affects the value any....

David

[rottnsox]

Thank you for the replies, everyone. I took your advice and have now taken a few photos of the ball. Unfortunately, this forum has a file size limit that is exceedingly small (78.1KB for a jpg file), and all of my photos greatly exceed this limit. Even when I attempt to save the files at the "lowest quality" setting, the file size is still too large. I'm sorry that I am not computer savvy enough to know how to make this work. Any suggestions?

FYI, someone wrote on the ball the year 1949, which I presume my great-grandfather wrote to record the year he collected the signatures, perhaps at a single event. The ball is stamped "Official League; Yarn Wrapped" on the center spot. I have no idea if this is meaningful to the ball's valuation.

[thecatspajamas]

If you want to forward the photo files to me, I'll resize and post them for you. I'm sure others would be willing to do the same.

thecatspajamas99 at gmail.com

[rottnsox]

Thanks to thecatspajamas for offering to help me post the photos -- I have sent them to him in hopes of success. In the mean time, I did decipher a few of the other signatures (in addition to Wagner, Kiner, and Greenberg):

Rip Sewell
Fritz Ostermueller
Eddie Basinski
Bill Salkeld
Wally Westlake
Clyde Kluttz (love that name!)
Billy Herman
Nick Strincevich
Jim Russell
Elbie Fletcher
John Lanning
Roy Jarvis
Chet Smith (sports writer/editor in Pittsburgh)

There are a few more I have yet to figure out. Most of these played for the Pirates in the mid- to late-1940s. That makes sense given the "1949" date hand-written on the ball. Thanks again.

[thecatspajamas]

you're welcome

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by ctownboy

pbspelly,

This is why I am very leery of single signed baseballs; a scam artist can buy a multi-signed ball, erase the names of the other people and then sell the single signed ball for more money.

As far as the original poster and their question, if you can not post a picture at least you could say if the baseball has a stamp on it telling who the Commissioner or President of the league was. IF there is a stamp like this then people who know about baseballs can tell you approximately when the ball was made and if THAT affects the value any....

David

That kind of alteration is easily revealed by a black light.

[RichardSimon]

This ball has some condition issues. I don't see it valued at $1000.

[Bpm0014]

$700-$1100

[rottnsox]

Thanks to everyone for the inputs. I definitely see that this ball has much more sentimental value than any "real" value. I do appreciate your time. I have done my best to decipher the names. With the help of Google, I believe I have discovered all but three of the signatures. I continue to welcome any help in filling in the blanks on the three "Unknown" names. Feel free to send me a personal note if you can decipher them from the pictures above: rottnsox@mac.com. Thanks again!

SIDE ONE
Honus Wagner
Hank Greenberg

SIDE TWO
Wally Westlake
Ralph Kiner
Clyde Kluttz
Billy Herman
Nick Strincevich
Unknown
Billy Cox

SIDE THREE
Jim Russell
Elbie Fletcher
John Lanning
Roy Jarvis

SIDE FOUR
Chet Smith (sports writer/editor in Pittsburgh)
Rip Sewell
Unknown
Unknown

SIDE FIVE
Frankie Gustine
Fritz Ostermueller
Eddie Basinski
Ken Heintzelman
Bill Salkeld