Blue front 1958 Hank Aaron

[vintage954]

Remember, I'm not "accusing" anyone. I simply asked if anyone is noticing it. Like I said, I've ordered from Greg for years and I continue to order daily and WILL continue.

[bnorth]

The blue cards are because they are missing the yellow from the printing process or it was removed. Yellow is very easy to remove and I would guess 99% of this type of cards are altered. The missing ink cards are my 2nd favorite printing error. I never buy them unless I can look at them in hand because finding a real one is next to impossible. Notice how this mysteriously only happens on star players cards.

Can't give a 100% yes or no on this one. The area around the Indian is the only place that really worries me. If it is real it should not be that off white, It should be white like the borders.

[ALR-bishop]

Here is a different example that Ben and I discussed in another thread. Likely due exposure to light. Maybe tampering.

[Exhibitman]

Great thread here, guys.

After reading the posts and looking for a blue card for a while I am less comfortable with their legitimacy than I had been before. The white letter variation of the Aaron card has yellow in the logo area and a green background. Ditto the other white letter cards--they have their normal yellows. If the Aaron is legit, there should be an entire sheet worth of printing errors without yellow in them to accompany it, and given the number of them we are seeing lately, there should be quite a few no-yellow cards that are not the white letter variation. So I guess the question is, does anyone else have a yellow ink totally missing card from the 1958 series the Aaron is in?

[ALR-bishop]

Could you "create" such a card by exposure to the sun or other light source ?

Anyone know what cards are on the same sheet with the Aaron ?

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Could you "create" such a card by exposure to the sun or other light source ?

Anyone know what cards are on the same sheet with the Aaron ?

Al you would be amazed at what can be "created" with proper exposure.

[ALR-bishop]

Well, I only paid $25 for mine sometime back, so I like it

[doug.goodman]

Adam -

I hadn't seen your post before we had lunch today, it was good to see you.

The blue Aaron that started this thread was once owned by me, I have held all of the variations in my hands at the same time and I believe it to be "real", not faded.

I agree that it seems that there should be other cards with similar issues, I occasionally run searches on those cards, but have never seen any of them.

I believe that other potential blue back cards should be - Burdette, Mantilla, Rice, Ernie Johnson, Tanner, Logan and Torre.

Doug

[brewing]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

After reading the posts and looking for a blue card for a while I am less comfortable with their legitimacy than I had been before. The white letter variation of the Aaron card has yellow in the logo area and a green background. Ditto the other white letter cards--they have their normal yellows. If the Aaron is legit, there should be an entire sheet worth of printing errors without yellow in them to accompany it, and given the number of them we are seeing lately, there should be quite a few no-yellow cards that are not the white letter variation. So I guess the question is, does anyone else have a yellow ink totally missing card from the 1958 series the Aaron is in?

Adam was the first to bring it up and Richard restated it with a picture of the sheet.

Put me in the camp that believes the ones that have been in the hobby when it was considered a negative are from fading and the newer ones are from the same or intentional fading.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by brewing

Put me in the camp that believes the ones that have been in the hobby when it was considered a negative are from fading and the newer ones are from the same or intentional fading.

This is what I believe also. I have never seen a real non faded one and ALL the pictures of them I have seen including the ones in this thread have the signs of "fading".

One of the things I look for in a real missing yellow card or one that has been faded is if there is any yellow at all left. In my experience yellow shows up in a picture better than it does on the card in hand. A faint even yellow is a big red flag for me. Like in the logo of every card pictured in this thread. On all the real light yellow printed cards I have seen the yellow in not as even with lighter/darker spots in it as the ink runs out in the press. I know we have a couple others with printing experience please add your experience also.

The Mantle pictured below is an example of what a card looks like before the press completely runs out of ink. It is a patchy yellow not a faint even yellow. It is easiest to see in the words Valuable Players.

I also want to point out I am not trying to put anybodys card(s) down I am just trying to save error collector's a lot of money by not buying altered cards.