T206 Dahlen HOF Price Impact - Seeking Opinions.

[t206hof]

Johnson was lobbing the ball??? It was dead ball, those guys were just trying to make contact. Johnson and Matty were by far the best two pitchers there ever will be.

[CMIZ5290]

Dahlen should be in, as well as Ed Reulbach.....Just my thoughts.

[t206hof]

Reulbach's ERA was very very good.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by t206hof

Reulbach's ERA was very very good.

+1...I dont know how he can be out... In addition to his amazing stats, he actually pitched consecutive 1-hitters in a double header game....Can you say amazing???

[oldjudge]

Orioles1954--you may want to recheck your math, as should Kevin who agreed with it.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

Orioles1954--you may want to recheck your math, as should Kevin who agreed with it.

What exactly is the math?

[t206hof]

Yes I do, he didn't get over 3500 strikeouts by lobbing the ball to the plate. He didn't need any "relief" he started his game and he finished his game.

[rainier2004]

Its become the Hall of Very good...

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by t206hof

Johnson was lobbing the ball??? It was dead ball, those guys were just trying to make contact. Johnson and Matty were by far the best two pitchers there ever will be.

Yes. They didn't bear down until they had 2 strikes or a runner in scoring position. Do you really think Wajo threw 500+ complete games at 100mph?

[howard38]

Originally Posted by t206hof

Johnson was lobbing the ball??? It was dead ball, those guys were just trying to make contact. Johnson and Matty were by far the best two pitchers there ever will be.

You don't have to take Slipk's word for it, you can read Matty himself describe conserving his energy for the tough spots in his book Pitching in a Pinch.

[t206hof]

Well if he conserved his energy and he still was the 2nd best pitcher in history, that says something about how good he actually was. Crazy good.

[t206hof]

But lobbing the ball is a little different than bearing down on some hitters and some situations.

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by t206hof

Well if he conserved his energy and he still was the 2nd best pitcher in history, that says something about how good he actually was. Crazy good.

And the fact that you didn't know that also says something. Go do some research so that you have something resembling facts to back up your opinion. Having a factual basis for your opinion often adds validity to what you say.

[t206hof]

An opinion is an opinion. You, me, everybody can voice your opinion, and MY opinion is that Johnson and Matty make these modern pitchers look like bush leaguers. And that is my opinion.

[t206hof]

And 416 wins, 3508 strikeouts, 110 shutouts, 2.17 ERA speaks for itself. That is not anybody's opinion those are are his stats. (And I didn't have to go look those up, I know those by heart)

[Kenny Cole]

Originally Posted by t206hof

And 416 wins, 3508 strikeouts, 110 shutouts, 2.17 ERA speaks for itself. That is not anybody's opinion those are are his stats. (And I didn't have to go look those up, I know those by heart)

I guess you have a problem understanding context. That's OK. Go ahead and believe that Walter Johnson would strike out close to 300 batters a year in todays game and finish most of them if you want to. That's completely delusional, as shown by the fact that it never, ever happens, but go ahead and believe it if you want. The Easter Bunny is going to be coming soon. I hope he leaves you some candy.