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Old 03-16-2014, 12:19 PM
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Jolly,
thats quite interesting..and well done

might you have similar info/ uncut sheets on the 66T set ?
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Old 03-16-2014, 03:16 PM
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Any SP's in a Topps set from 1960 thru at least the 1990's should be divisible by 11 in overall number. In fact, other than 1958 when they mucked around with the Mantle and Musial AS cards, that divisor should stretch back to 1957.

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Old 03-16-2014, 05:25 PM
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Default Two things I would love to see...

Thanks Darren for the picture of the half sheet of the 5th series. Beautiful work as always.

I'd love to see the other half sheet--anyone out there--and a close up in particular of the checklist cards.

This series numbers 371 to 446 which is 76 cards. Add in the previous check list for this series--Checklist 5th series card is 361--and you get 77 distinct cards. The 6th check list is card 437.

This half sheet therefore holds all the 77 unique cards in 7 rows plus 5 extra rows at the bottom.

I would think the other half sheet would have all 77 cards as well, plus 5 extra rows.

If those 5 rows on the second sheet included the 2 that were only seen once in the other half, then we should have 3 extra rows of cards for the two half sheets, and 4 rows that are only printed three times.

Sheet A: 77 cards once, 55 cards printed twice
Sheet B: (assumption): 77 cards done once, 5 rows duplicated that would include the 2 only printed once on A and then 3 extra rows.

Final count: 4 rows x 11 cards x 3 times each=132 cards
3 rows x 11 cards x 4 times each=132 cards
That makes up 264 for the full sheet.

If that is correct, then would be looking at 33 cards that are 33% more common, with a 4:3 ratio? A different way of looking at it.

Without seeing the other half sheet I don't think we have enough data here. If the other half sheet shorted the same 2 rows, then we would be looking at 22 short cards. That would be 5 rows x 11 cards x 4 times= 220 cards and 2 rows x 11 cards x 2 times=44 cards for the 264 total.

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Old 03-16-2014, 05:37 PM
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It's not always that linear from one half sheet to the other from what I have seen. The 67 Highs are a 77 card series where there are some odd things going on. 44 66 88 and 110 card series should not really have any SP's but 55, 77 and (maybe) 99 could.

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Old 03-16-2014, 05:54 PM
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Your prior work on the 67 high series was pure mathematical genius.

What is your best guess to the relative numbers of these cards?
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:41 PM
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Here is my partial sheet of '61s. None of those cards are on it though, so I don't think it's going to be much help.

I can say that when I was putting my set together, back before the internet and eBay, the Dick Bertell #441 was the hardest common for me to find. In fact it was the last common low number I acquired for my set. Whether that means it's a short print, or that I was just unlucky finding that card, I don't know.





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Old 03-16-2014, 09:41 PM
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Great stuff as usual Carlton, even if most of it is over my head. Good thread
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