Very Fake E93 on ebay with lots of bids....

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Leon

Please don't bid on this one...(and no I won't either )

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-E93-Sta...item4ad40ec8d2

Pro used to not grade so many fakes but lately I have seen some fakes in their holders, including this one. Thanks to a board member for sending me an email asking to post about it.



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Leon, I saw this listing when I did my 'Bay scroll this morning. I dismissed as a replica (Who would slab a Cobb with PRO?) It didn't look "right" to me. However, I could not tell someone why. What specifically points to a fake, in your eyes?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

Leon, I saw this listing when I did my 'Bay scroll this morning. I dismissed as a replica (Who would slab a Cobb with PRO?) It didn't look "right" to me. However, I could not tell someone why. What specifically points to a fake, in your eyes?

For me it's not just one thing. It is almost always (as in this case too) the combined issues. The borders aren't white the way they should be, the image isn't crisp enough, the corners are artificially rounded. It's in a Pro holder and it has extraordinary centering for the issue. Put them all together and you have "Yucky".....

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by Leon

For me it's not just one thing. It is almost always (as in this case too) the combined issues. The borders aren't white the way they should be, the image isn't crisp enough, the corners are artificially rounded. It's in a Pro holder and it has extraordinary centering for the issue. Put them all together and you have "Yucky".....

Yup! As I said, it looks shady to me. After this many years in the hobby, I listen to my gut. I arrived at the same conclusion without putting my finger on an individual, specific problem.....and PRO sure as heck doesn't quiet the gut, now does it?

[kcohen]

Probably the first PRO-holdered card that I've seen not graded at least near mint 7.