koufax opinion

[packs]

Definitely. I just wanted to point out that when he's signing in person (at least at Spring Training) it really is a mob scene and I don't think you'll see a nice one come out of it.

But that doesn't mean they aren't authentic.

[GrayGhost]

Agreed for sure. He signs so rarely otherwise

[Lordstan]

My concern is not so much about whether it's real, but more with how does PSA authenticate a signature that doesn't look like a usual signature without being at an in the person type set up?
PSA slabbed an auto that doesn't look like a Koufax signature. Why? If people can make up the "It's been in my family for years" and the "my grandfather got it in person" lies, why would anyone assume that the "I got it in person and he was mobbed/rushed" isn't also made up. It's one thing if one individual knows and trusts the person who got the autograph. In that instance you are putting your faith in your relationship and not just the look of the auto.

[packs]

Definitely a valid concern. My only guess is that maybe PSA has had an influx of these types of signatures as of late from people who got them recently while he's been signing. So while it may not look like older signatures, it could resemble more recent examples.

That's just a guess though.

[Lordstan]

That is a reasonable possibility.

[khw]

only thing about this one is it is in a old label red holder they dont use anymore for just dna , that has to be maybe 7 years old? his signature as of late has changed , and that includes not rushed, that being said i wouldnt have bought this and if i sent it in wouldnt have been surprised if it failed

[Drift]

Here is a neat reference guide to Mr Koufax's autograph through the years.
It seems PSA does archive and date the variations.

http://www.psacard.com/autographfact...5/sandy-koufax

[tazdmb]

Originally Posted by khw

only thing about this one is it is in a old label red holder they dont use anymore for just dna , that has to be maybe 7 years old? his signature as of late has changed , and that includes not rushed, that being said i wouldnt have bought this and if i sent it in wouldnt have been surprised if it failed

Great catch! Yeah, I would stay away then.