PSA or SGC?

[thehoodedcoder]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

"The weak prices across the board for SGC are out there because of the card in the holder."

I'd suggest you stop buying SGC 5's and trying to cross them if that's the case.... Each company has their own grading criteria. PSA "4" cards often seem to have a small crease and I've found paper missing on the backs. SGC seems to allow for more corner wear - sometimes their VG cards are more like good. I'm in the SGC camp and I have ungraded cards as well. Vanilla, chocolate, moose tracks - there are many ways to collect. Most of the time both do a decent job. Some of the time they do a really bad job. Align yourself in either camp or neither - sometimes your unyielding blanket statements relative to quality control and pricing just doesn't stand up to the facts. If you bought a card on it's own merits and not based on what some third party said - in the long run you would likely be less disappointed.....

I absolutely did that. I will never buy another SGC card again unless I am willing to take the downgrade of a full grade.

I align with corners being more important, and probably does most of the rest of the world. That is a great talking point in of itself. If you had to stack all aspects up, corners, cleanliness, centering etc. I'm willing to bet corners are the most important to the majority of people. Prewar only people, sure, maybe not so much.

I have only ever seen three 4s with a crease in my time. The only reason they were 4s with a crease is because every other aspect of the cards were above a 4. Based on grading standard it was the minimum grade that could be given.

Missing paper on a PSA 4? What world is that comment from? How many examples can you back that up with, 1, 2, a handful of them amongst the several thousand?

Kevin

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

If you had to stack all aspects up, corners, cleanliness, centering etc. I'm willing to bet corners are the most important to the majority of people.

Corners mean little/nothing to me. Cleanliness and size. Many times sharp corners=small card.

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by thehoodedcoder

Missing paper on a PSA 4? What world is that comment from? How many examples can you back that up with, 1, 2, a handful of them amongst the several thousand?

Kevin

MANY more cards in PSA 4 and 5 holders with missing paper than SGC holders. MANY MANY more.

Now I will sit back and watch the fireworks begin.

[Peter_Spaeth]

SGC is more forgiving on corner wear. PSA is more forgiving on minor wrinkles and marks and spots of paper loss (or they miss them more frequently). I have questions about the purity of both companies for different reasons; hope I am wrong but have seen an awful lot that doesn't make sense.