OT/ Will the real Jack Dempsey....

[slipk1068]

Funny the way his Old Judge, and Allen & Ginter cards always sell for a premium.

[Sean1125]

Please stand up.

[1880nonsports]

or the scan - look terrible - maybe both :-( I didn't bother to read the description.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

Please stand up.

I now have The Real Slim Shady stuck in my head. Thanks, Sean.

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

I now have The Real Slim Shady stuck in my head. Thanks, Sean.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

Funny the way his Old Judge, and Allen & Ginter cards always sell for a premium.

....as well they should. He was a top fighter and well-respected in his own right.

[packs]

But which fighter are the fish named after?

[slipk1068]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

....as well they should. He was a top fighter and well-respected in his own right.

1 Jack Dempsey was a "top fighter and well-respected."

The other Jack Dempsey was a LEGENDARY figure in American history.

There are many, many, MANY well respected top fighters in card sets from the late 19th/early 20th century that do not command the premium that his cards command.

Originally Posted by packs

But which fighter are the fish named after?

I believe that would be the legendary Jack Dempsey lol

[slipk1068]

Dave,

Judging by your avatar, you are likely MUCH more knowledgeable about boxing and boxing cards than I am.

Am I imagining that premium on the 19th century Jack Dempsey cards as if he was the "other" Jack Dempsey?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by slipk1068

Dave,

Judging by your avatar, you are likely MUCH more knowledgeable about boxing and boxing cards than I am.

Am I imagining that premium on the 19th century Jack Dempsey cards as if he was the "other" Jack Dempsey?

Auction house mistakes aside, and believe or not, this is a very common mistake, the name obviously doesn't hurt the value of his cards.

However, he shouldn't be classified as a common either. Obviously John L. is the king of this era as far as collectors go, but "Non-Pariel" Dempsey stuff should probably be in the next level down with the Bob Fitzsimmons, Peter Jacksons, George Dixon's, George Godfrey and Corbetts of the world.

...................and when I say "Corbett", I don't mean Young Corbett I, or Young Corbett II, or even Young Corbett III..........and when I say "George Godfrey", I don't mean the genial 1920's-30's Heavyweight who sparred with Jack Dempsey, and turned Primo Carnera into a whithering little boy on the canvas, with a low blow, during a bout he was supposed to throw, so figured he'd go out in style, while saving as much face as possible.

.......and when I say Peter Jacks..................ah, you get it. It does get confusing, and there are a ton of shared names in the sport... many between equally good (or close to it) fighters.