Any fans of Topps Vault items?

I Only Smoke 4 the Cards · #1 05-10-2014, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 6-4-3memorabilia

Wanted to get a few opinions on Topps Vault items. Looks like some of the items are pretty interesting while others not so much. I picked this up to go along with my 1965 Topps set (mostly because it says Mickey Mantle) was only $25 but does anyone know what it was used for? on the COA it mentions it being art, I don't think its a printing plate. It has that old 1960's tape that turned yellow on it. Maybe it was used as a concept for Topps before they made the cards? What do you guys think it was used for? Thanks- Anthony

It looks like inked comic book art. For comic books of the era the art process worked like this.

(1) penciled draws a picture
(2) inker traces the image and adds detail
(3) letterer adds lettering (usually glued on the inked page)
(4) image is copied to a transparency and is painted
(5) painted image is copied for production

Hope this helps.

Alex

6-4-3memorabilia · #2 05-10-2014, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Only Smoke 4 the Cards

It looks like inked comic book art. For comic books of the era the art process worked like this.

(1) penciled draws a picture
(2) inker traces the image and adds detail
(3) letterer adds lettering (usually glued on the inked page)
(4) image is copied to a transparency and is painted
(5) painted image is copied for production

Hope this helps.

Alex

Thanks for the info Alex, this kind of had me puzzled as well as the few collectors I showed it to at my local card show

drcy · #3 05-10-2014, 12:13 PM

I had some items from their original 1989 Guersey Archive action. Proofs, art, etc for 1960s-70s baseball and football cards. Nothing of great value, but I hought they were neat. I've always liked that sort of stuff The oddest one was a mylar (transparent plastic) progression proof for a 1975 card. It had different sheets, one for one color and when you put them one on top of the other you got the whole card. Back in the 1989, they rubber stamped Topps archive on the back of the items.

I agree that yours looks like the pen and ink art for the back of a card. 'Original art' should refer to something hand drawn and thats what the backs of cards looked like, with the cartoon. I had a couple of those for football cards from the Guernsey auction.

Mark70Z · #4 05-10-2014, 01:14 PM

This is the original artwork for the back of the '65 Topps Pedro Gonzalez card #97. Now, what I don't know is why it has Mickey Mantle below. I don't believe that is from the Mantle card; maybe the drawing is supposed to look like Mantle?

Oh, and I'm a fan of the Vault items. Like some have said when thetoppsvault first started had some "really" nice items, but now it's very sporadic in anything really good (at least in my view). Wish I would of known about the 1989 Guersey Archive action at the time; had some awesome items!

drcy · #5 05-10-2014, 03:41 PM

It may have been a practice 'Mickey Mantle' they didn't use.

"Rare unissued text." A burgeoning market.

I assume the sketches and texts were done on larger sheets and Topps cut them down, either during production of the cards or for public sale. Commercial artists rarely do their work on card-sized sheets of paper, thought cutting and pasting was a normal part of production and original artworks. And I've seen larger sheets with multiple baseball card cartoons. Though the single cartoon such as this is the way you usually see them on the market.

The single card color progression proofs were cut down after the fact for public sale.

joeadcock · #6 05-11-2014, 07:13 AM

Anthony

REA Auctions of 2011, lot 1728, Topps Vault items. In description, you see one was similar to yours at least with back art of Topps Card

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/...2011/1728.html

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