SGC Response concerning new labels

[GregMitch34]

Thanks for reply but as others have shown--the new line of info would not preclude the green border and the heading in general. Simply claiming some people never like change and the old flip had its critics is weak and does not explain why full re-design was needed or desired, or why these particular choices were made, especially since they make SGC look cheap--when one of its main draws was it looked kind of "classy." Odd move when 1) you're already #2 in the field and 2) your main advantage over #1 has been your looks and 3) there are financial reasons, in most cases, to prefer PSA.

[Orioles1954]

I am curious if the flips will have any impact on resale value.

[pawpawdiv9]

i was just browsing the site, i typically visit often.
I could not find the 'SGC forums'
and i was looking at my Registry...and it list it, but when i click on 'my registered sets'.....its says nothing.

[kmac32]

I entered my email to reset my password and it says e-mail unknown. Called and they said they are still working on site. What a fiasco.

[queencitysportscards]

Originally Posted by kmac32

I entered my email to reset my password and it says e-mail unknown. Called and they said they are still working on site. What a fiasco.

I had no problem today re-setting my password. I also did an online submission and sent in a card today. Wonder if it will come back in a new flip?

[mrvster]

I just read the other thread...............I do like the old"design" of the older label, but I still stand about my previous post....

as long as the pros there keep getting it right, then write mine in crayon....

graphics can be worked on......pure understanding takes years to develop...

respectfully,

John Vanderbeck

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Thanks for reply but as others have shown--the new line of info would not preclude the green border and the heading in general. Simply claiming some people never like change and the old flip had its critics is weak and does not explain why full re-design was needed or desired, or why these particular choices were made, especially since they make SGC look cheap--when one of its main draws was it looked kind of "classy." Odd move when 1) you're already #2 in the field and 2) your main advantage over #1 has been your looks and 3) there are financial reasons, in most cases, to prefer PSA.

Valid points!

[The Nasty Nati]

If there is no turning back with the new label (which I really hope that's not the case) at least give your loyal customers a discount on re-holdering fees---especially since there was zero heads up about this.

[Vol]

Originally Posted by The Nasty Nati

If there is no turning back with the new label (which I really hope that's not the case) at least give your loyal customers a discount on re-holdering fees---especially since there was zero heads up about this.

One can hope, but this feels like a means to implement
a new revenue stream.

Classy of SGC at the minimum to at least try to provide all
here some form of clarification, instead of just a complete ignore.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Vol

One can hope, but this feels like a means to implement
a new revenue stream.

Classy of SGC at the minimum to at least try to provide all
here some form of clarification, instead of just a complete ignore.

The new half-grade could arguably be a means to generate new revenue -- but don't they have to keep up with PSA on half-grades? However, creating new holders and flips to prevent fraud and to protect the cards can hardly be seen as a money grab.

[nolemmings]

Um, how are there any more lines of text on these new flips than were already available on the old ones once you remove the bar code?

[jbsports33]

Thank you to Sean for providing some feedback, only time will tell what will really happen. I am still on the fence about what I should be investing my money in and may just take a chance on the new holders. Maybe I will just buy the older labeled graded cards for now and wait and keep an eye on prices. Thought about selling more ungraded as well, with all the changes to PSA and SGC grading (half-grades, holders) - seems like there is always a few issues that collectors mention on this board.

Jimmy

[4815162342]

I don't think I've ever seen a group of guys get so upset over color. Maybe SGC will let you choose the right flip colors to match your dresses.

[conor912]

I'm not much of a slabby, so none of this really concerns me. Tangentially, though, I have always wondered why you (SGC) has felt compelled to put the single digit PSA-comparable grade on the flip. Seems to me like you are pinning yourselves down in PSA's shadow and resigning to #2. If you took that out, then the 4th line of text is moot.

[mrvster]

I have not looked at the new labels yet.....and granted,. there have been some issues with their gaskets....but, I would not think of sending my precious cards/scraps anywhere else....they are a 100% class act no matter what the label "looks" like.....if it includes more information, then they have really been listening to their customers.......information is the "key"....im not trying to bash PSA or anything, but SGC ROCKS.....more info on the SGC flip means more knowledge/value .....info is the key(besides protection/verification).....


PSA had trouble slabbing T206 Blank Backs as "NO VOUCHER" or "FACTORY MISPRINT" "NO HOLDER" ect.....where as SGC graders know the difference of recognizing a T206 printer's scrap....and slab them accordingly.....PSA misses the mark A TON of times on T206 rarities/ misprints......as one of my friends picks up a BROWN OLD MILL(from Ebay), and it is not even differentiated on the PSA flip! and, possibly the card was busted out of a SGC holder previously and relabeled as PSA AUTH to add value???HA!! what a joke!


PSA is clueless when it comes to the T206 rarities...and labeling them accordingly(sorry David)..

PSA
they just don't have the capacity to recognize/grade them appropriately....all my collector friends know where to take a true rare card....


SGC customer service is second to none.....of course mistakes happen ocassionally, but it's all how you handle the problem or concern, and SGC is untouchable there...I never believed in "GRADING" my cards for years, I eat and breathe T206 and know a scrap from a production card... but its almost a necessity now a days....I always look for the second opinion, and SGC has always been there for me....


I will check out the new flip/ design......as long as the cards are evaluated by those graders, they could write it in crayon for all I care.......

[Blackie]

It trust Sean and he is a man of his Word. That I know first hand through many submissions, phone calls etc. Though it's a bit frustrating, I must concur that they have the collectors interests in mind. Just my honest opinion.

[kamikidEFFL]

I understand where Sean is coming from. Computers have to be upgraded and things change it just stinks. I really just think it looks a bit lower end but maybe it will grow on me