Really! Bat grading is stupid

yanks12025 · #1 05-23-2014, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bat_master

The Lindstrom bat was originally offered by Art Jaffe of Left Field Collectibles. By originally, I mean I had discussed buying the bat from Art back in 2007. I still have the photos he sent me. The email is dated May 1, 2007.

Unfortunately I never put the funds together to buy it and someone else ended up getting it. In a strange twist of events, on the exact same day I found out I missed this early block letter Lindstrom I was offered a signature model version from the mid-30s. It is still in my collection to this day. Tough bat.

We're not questioning whether the bat is real or not. The matter is how can it jump 1.5 in grade. And also why leave out the whole sidewritten date in the auction listing(probably because they want to consider it a rookie era bat instead of a 32 example).

bat_master · #2 05-23-2014, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by yanks12025

We're not questioning whether the bat is real or not. The matter is how can it jump 1.5 in grade. And also why leave out the whole sidewritten date in the auction listing(probably because they want to consider it a rookie era bat instead of a 32 example).

Oh, my bad. Since you could have contacted either Grey Flannel or JT with this question in order to actually get an answer I assumed you had other motives. Especially since your thread title doesn't even mention the bat in question and instead appears to be a thinly veiled attempt to discredit JT and/or the grading process all in one fell swoop.

yanks12025 · #3 05-23-2014, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bat_master

Oh, my bad. Since you could have contacted either Grey Flannel or JT with this question in order to actually get an answer I assumed you had other motives. Especially since your thread title doesn't even mention the bat in question and instead appears to be a thinly veiled attempt to discredit JT and/or the grading process all in one fell swoop.

You're something else Tim. I love how you always defend the people who authenticate bats. I'm not discrediting JT or anything, simply posting how a bat jumps in grades. And I did message grey flannel and they said their get back to me next week after the holiday and I sent john a message yesterday for another question and heard nothing back.

Tim, I'm also curious what your thoughts were on the Black Betsy bat that sold in rea last month. The one that had no factors besides the color of the bat to joe jackson. Yet PSA considered it a game used joe jackson bat.

bat_master · #4 05-23-2014, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yanks12025

You're something else Tim. I love how you always defend the people who authenticate bats. I'm not discrediting JT or anything, simply posting how a bat jumps in grades. And I did message grey flannel and they said their get back to me next week after the holiday and I sent john a message yesterday for another question and heard nothing back.

Tim, I'm also curious what your thoughts were on the Black Betsy bat that sold in rea last month. The one that had no factors besides the color of the bat to joe jackson. Yet PSA considered it a game used joe jackson bat.

Where did I defend JT? Point that out to me please.

Added: And you say you aren't discrediting JT, but yet you felt it necessary to start a thread about it on GUU? Even though you have absolutely no REAL information to add to it?

bat_master · #5 05-23-2014, 05:05 PM

Regarding the REA Jackson bat...did you not read the extensive release about that bat? I got an email all about it on April 21.

yanks12025 · #6 05-23-2014, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bat_master

Regarding the REA Jackson bat...did you not read the extensive release about that bat? I got an email all about it on April 21.

I did read that. But it's still not enough proof/evidence that it's Joe jackson bat. Several players used black Betsy back then.

bat_master · #7 05-23-2014, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by yanks12025

I did read that. But it's still not enough proof/evidence that it's Joe jackson bat. Several players used black Betsy back then.

When you say "Black Betsy" are you referring to the J13 model? I just want to be clear.

You had said that all it had was the same color. Are you now saying that it was both the same finish and model as Joe Jackson's preferred model, the J13?

yanks12025 · #8 05-23-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bat_master

Where did I defend JT? Point that out to me please.

Added: And you say you aren't discrediting JT, but yet you felt it necessary to start a thread about it on GUU? Even though you have absolutely no REAL information to add to it?

Becuse people on GUU actually have talked about bat grading before. So maybe some collectors would like to see how grades change. And the information I add is, the bat changed 1.5 grades in less than 6 months.

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