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Old 05-24-2014, 06:51 PM
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Don't tell me the flips don't matter. If that was true, then GAI, CSA, and PRO would all be selling for big money! After all, it is not about the flip, it is about the card! You can look at the card and see how good it is!

Everyone knows that is not true however. GAI cards sell for crap. Even SGC cards don't sell nowhere near the PSA equivalent for certain cards.

And yes....if a label looks like one of those fly by night graders that I used to laugh about when I first entered this hobby years ago, then it is going to be perceived as being inferior. That is why some neighborhoods have homeowner's associations - to prevent the neighbor from painting his house polka dot and looking all crazy.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:09 PM
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Don't tell me the flips don't matter. If that was true, then GAI, CSA, and PRO would all be selling for big money! After all, it is not about the flip, it is about the card! You can look at the card and see how good it is!

Everyone knows that is not true however. GAI cards sell for crap. Even SGC cards don't sell nowhere near the PSA equivalent for certain cards.

And yes....if a label looks like one of those fly by night graders that I used to laugh about when I first entered this hobby years ago, then it is going to be perceived as being inferior. That is why some neighborhoods have homeowner's associations - to prevent the neighbor from painting his house polka dot and looking all crazy.
Huh? We aren't talking grading companies. We aren't comparing PRO to SGC. We are talking about the paper label. The flip doesn't bring the money. The name of the TPG does. The label could be pink with polka dots as long as it said SGC. After a few months all will be forgiven.
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Old 05-24-2014, 07:18 PM
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Guys, SGC isn't PRO or GAI. It's also not even PSA when it comes to customer service and integrity. Unlike PSA they actually listen to their customer base and don't get defensive upon criticism. I'm sure they're reading this thread and your voices are heard.
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I like the new flips better. Edited to say now I'm not so sure now. At least the cert number is easier to read for my old eyes.
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Guys, SGC isn't PRO or GAI. It's also not even PSA when it comes to customer service and integrity. Unlike PSA they actually listen to their customer base and don't get defensive upon criticism. I'm sure they're reading this thread and your voices are heard.
Then Jeff you never heard some of the conversations I had with Mr. Skeffington when I was at Beckett.

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I just sent in a card last week to SGC for a customer. Got the card back today with new label. Although, I do prefer, Joe G's design, it does look much better in person.

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I just sent in a card last week to SGC for a customer. Got the card back today with new label. Although, I do prefer, Joe G's design, it does look much better in person.

Hank
The flip seems to have centering issues ...
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I just sent in a card last week to SGC for a customer. Got the card back today with new label. Although, I do prefer, Joe G's design, it does look much better in person.

Hank
I bet your customer is more unhappy with that 'A' than with the flip design.
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I bet your customer is more unhappy with that 'A' than with the flip design.
I warned him that it looked trimmed to me, however, he still wanted to send it in...SGC got it right. It's a shame though because he got it as a gift when he was a kid and was drafted by the Reds some time ago and has more time to collect now that he is done playing...the hardest part was confirming the news. Overall, SGC is still great to work with and respect their work. I can deal with the flip if they continue to stay with the current design. It will catch on in due time.
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I just sent in a card last week to SGC for a customer. Got the card back today with new label. Although, I do prefer, Joe G's design, it does look much better in person.

Hank
The flip actually looks good (not as good as Joe G's) as long as the top line is short i.e. a Topps issue. Start adding principal de gales to that top line and it is too crunched with the SGC. Joe G has the SGC reduced in size to help with this also.
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I just sent in a card last week to SGC for a customer. Got the card back today with new label. Although, I do prefer, Joe G's design, it does look much better in person.

Hank
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Then Jeff you never heard some of the conversations I had with Mr. Skeffington when I was at Beckett.

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Beckett, as in the competitor?
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Beckett, as in the competitor?
Yes, I used to work there back in the day -- not in grading but in the pricing area
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