Real / Fake 1954 Wilson Franks Ted Williams

FrankWilsonWilliams · #1 05-30-2014, 01:25 PM

I appreciate all your insight. The list I just posted is the sellers entire list that I will buy for 6k. It was his fathers collection. All the signs seem like it's legit. Does this help change anyone's mind?

Sean1125 · #2 05-30-2014, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWilsonWilliams

I appreciate all your insight. The list I just posted is the sellers entire list that I will buy for 6k. It was his fathers collection. All the signs seem like it's legit. Does this help change anyone's mind?

Assuming the Williams is Legit (I think it is legit, but I still think the price is piss-poor), I think you are paying pretty much retail across the board and the seller is doing no favors for you. Obviously if everything here is ultra high grade that changes, but I am assuming average grade for the issue (t206/Goudey/etc)

Leon · #3 05-30-2014, 01:42 PM

Without knowing more I would say it's probably worth it for the whole deal. That being said I expect your PM inbox to get some interest too

.....If you get it take your time selling (at least do some good research) and good luck.

I should add, I would have to see conditions of cards to be more sure.... I am basing my thoughts off of them being pretty nice and I haven't penned each value...

ullmandds · #4 05-30-2014, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Without knowing more I would say it's probably worth it for the whole deal. That being said I expect your PM inbox to get some interest too

.....If you get it take your time selling (at least do some good research) and good luck.

I should add, I would have to see conditions of cards to be more sure.... I am basing my thoughts off of them being pretty nice and I haven't penned each value...

+1

autograf · #5 05-30-2014, 02:33 PM

To me......they are all definitely legit. I think it's worth the $6K and like Leon said if you take your time, you should make money. Are you going to double your money--probably not unless something (or -things) grade out strong. An interesting lot of cards spanning 60 years. Love those Wilsons. A shame the Williams back is so far off kilter. That would pay for your lot if centered better. Post scans of all the cards if you get the lot!

jhs5120 · #6 05-30-2014, 03:03 PM

If everything is VG you'll do fine. You overvalued the Williams (it's maybe a $2500 card), but if you can get a PSA 2-5 from the rest you're looking pretty good. I would try to get him down to $5,000 though.

cparker94 · #7 05-30-2014, 01:49 PM

On that kind of money, I would need to see the collection in person. Does he live close by? Also, him saying that these are his father's could be a clue to be skeptical. Here are some examples.

1) "I'm not an expert card grader, so please look at the scans." What he really means is: "These cards aren't that great and there are no returns period."

2) "These cards belonged to my father." What he could mean is: "I want you to think that I know nothing about these cards. That way I can't be at fault if there are any problems with them."

Oh, and of course, my favorite....

3) "My husband just had a heart attack so this old stack of mint 1952's must go!" What this usually means is: "I am that husband and I plan on making you believe I'm a widow who knows nothing about cards and will rip you off."

Seriously, you need to set up an appointment at a public place if he is driving distance from you. Otherwise, at least call him. You will have a better idea once you talk to him over the phone or in person.

Craig from Texas

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Originally Posted by FrankWilsonWilliams

I appreciate all your insight. The list I just posted is the sellers entire list that I will buy for 6k. It was his fathers collection. All the signs seem like it's legit. Does this help change anyone's mind?

FrankWilsonWilliams · #8 05-30-2014, 01:56 PM

Feller front

FrankWilsonWilliams · #9 05-30-2014, 01:57 PM

Goudey example

FrankWilsonWilliams · #10 05-30-2014, 01:58 PM

Ex

FrankWilsonWilliams · #11 05-30-2014, 01:59 PM

More?

Sean1125 · #12 05-30-2014, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FrankWilsonWilliams

Ex

You are looking at VG, not EX. If you think that is EX you need to take some more time to study grading.

You are going to have trouble making money out of this deal. You are over-valuing the Williams way too much.

FrankWilsonWilliams · #13 05-30-2014, 02:11 PM

Ex= meant example

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