Who can slighty best these WHOLESALE PRICES?? ALL CARDS SOLD!

[bobbyw8469]

Let's play WHAT IF - What if the following morning Craig decides he doesn't want the card? What am I gonna do, force him to send me the money?? Say "You agreed to the deal - you have to pay!!!"....of course not....I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. All the naysayers really need to understand both sides of the fence here.

[jhs5120]

I don't know why everyone is jumping on Bobby.. It's clear that this was just an unfortunate mistake. It happens on these forums every day.

The best way to avoid these type of things would be to pay for items immediately.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I don't know why everyone is jumping on Bobby.. It's clear that this was just an unfortunate mistake. It happens on these forums every day.

The best way to avoid these type of things would be to pay for items immediately.

Thank you - this is all I'm going to say on the matter. Craig and I worked out a deal for a card. We had a verbal agreement he would pay me the next day. During the middle of the night, the card sold and was paid for on Ebay. I forgot to take it down. An unfortunate situation, and I am sorry that it happened, but my hands are tied. I have been on the receiving end of situations like this as well. And yes, while not happy, I was understanding. There will be other cards. I am sorry this happened. If you choose not to deal with me, I am sorry you feel that way. I hope you change your mind in the future. For those of you who do choose to deal with me, I promise to do everything in my power to help you out or make sure you are satisfied. That is what I can offer.

[wilkiebaby11]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

I don't know why everyone is jumping on Bobby.. It's clear that this was just an unfortunate mistake. It happens on these forums every day.

The best way to avoid these type of things would be to pay for items immediately.

I agree, had cparker paid immediately this wouldnt have been a problem. However... cparker and bobby agreed that he could pay the next morning. Had that not been part of the agreement, then yes, the card is for the taking.

It's as if he put the card on lay-away for 12 hours. If the agreement was that the card was his, awaiting payment the next morning, he shouldnt have to worry about it being sold anywhere else.

[cparker94]

Steve,

I couldn't have said it any better than what you said. I appreciate everyone's take on this unfortunate matter. I think we all have our opinions on who is at fault. Some say I should have paid right away to avoid this which is true. However, we did have an agreement. He reneged. He could have corrected his mistake. He chose not to. That's what makes me most upset. I've been in the sales business for years and when I make a mistake, I do what I can to make it right, whether it is offering a discount on a future purchase or whatever. Make the customer happy. In this case, he could have done a little research and see that I have a huge wantlist of 828 cards (www.mytoppscards.com) and maybe he could have offered me a similar card of equal value for the same price. I mean, I almost expected him to do something. Well, that's all I can say on this. It is what it is. I hope we all can learn from this and be better for it.

Craig from Texas

[wilkiebaby11]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Let's play WHAT IF - What if the following morning Craig decides he doesn't want the card? What am I gonna do, force him to send me the money?? Say "You agreed to the deal - you have to pay!!!"....of course not....I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. All the naysayers really need to understand both sides of the fence here.

I feel that this is part of the risk of being the seller and it's definitely going to happen. However, you should not have agreed to the terms of the deal if you weren't going to follow them. That's the point I am trying to make. You agreed to terms, but without communicating, you had clauses in your agreement that were not explained.

It's like going to the car dealership and signing a paper to buy a car the next day. The dealership cannot sell the car to anyone else, but the buyer has the option to back out. It's an AGREEMENT made. It's all just part of the business.

Once more, you had THREE buyers; CParker, eBayer, and ASC (which is as good as money in hand). So to say that you were afraid of not getting your money seems a bit exaggerated.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by wilkiebaby11

It's like going to the car dealership and signing a paper to buy a car the next day. The dealership cannot sell the car to anyone else, but the buyer has the option to back out. It's an AGREEMENT made. It's all just part of the business.

That isn't correct. Until the deal is funded, every dealership I know (and I know many, I used to own a company called Dealer Advertising Solutions, LLC) will take the money from the first customer that comes up with it, agreement or not.

If you want to see this for yourself, walk into a dealerhsip, yank the salesman's chain for a while and then tell him you'll be back tomorrow to buy a certain car. When you get home, look on the dealership's website and see if that card is still listed or if they removed it in order to hold it for you. I guarantee that it will still be listed. Dealerships DO NOT remove their cars from website inventory until the deal is funded.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Dealerships DO NOT remove their cars from website inventory until the deal is funded.

And to add to that, sometimes dealerships will leave cars on their inventory website even after the car is sold to generate more leads (especially if it's a hot car). Customer comes in looking for that car, car was sold three weeks ago and the salesman (well, any good salesman) flips them to something else.

[wilkiebaby11]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

That isn't correct. Until the deal is funded, every dealership I know (and I know many, I used to own a company called Dealer Advertising Solutions, LLC) will take the money from the first customer that comes up with it, agreement or not.

If you want to see this for yourself, walk into a dealerhsip, yank the salesman's chain for a while and then tell him you'll be back tomorrow to buy a certain car. When you get home, look on the dealership's website and see if that card is still listed or if they removed it in order to hold it for you. I guarantee that it will still be listed. Dealerships DO NOT remove their cars from website inventory until the deal is funded.

Maybe my analogy was bad. I'll accept that. I just always assumed that when I left my $500 check to 'hold' the car til the next morning, that that was an agreement that it wasn't going to be sold to anyone else until I came back on the agreed time. Maybe I shouldn't make uncommunicated inferences either...

I've said all I can say for this thread. In the end, I don't like the sales tactic that an agreement can be breached if money is not exchanged ASAP.

Buyer does have an opportunity to renege on his offer, and that would suck for the seller (what Bob was afraid of). But in the same case, the seller can renege the card and leave the buyer without a card (poor Craig). But as the seller, I feel as if they/we/it/whomever assumes those risks, not the buyer.