Chances for Re-grading at SGC

[bobbyw8469]

Remember the axiom, that over time, every card will eventually reside in the highest grade holder possible. In other words, assume that any card you buy has already been reviewed and resubmitted by the previous owners who like you want higher grades.

I agree with everything but this. Sometimes it is not cost feasible to crack cards out and pay the company again to grade the same card again. Sure, I have had cards that I thought were undergraded (same as everyone else, I am sure). Instead, I just put them up for sale, make a comment that the card appears to be undergraded and move on. Everyone has eyes, and I include big scans. They get bid up to where they need to be (not always, but usually).

[RGold]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I agree with everything but this. Sometimes it is not cost feasible to crack cards out and pay the company again to grade the same card again. Sure, I have had cards that I thought were undergraded (same as everyone else, I am sure). Instead, I just put them up for sale, make a comment that the card appears to be undergraded and move on. Everyone has eyes, and I include big scans. They get bid up to where they need to be (not always, but usually).

An axiom is a premise or starting point of reasoning. Yes, it is most likely that not every single card will be graded over and over again. Sheesh.

[GregMitch34]

Sorry to ask again but didn't get much specific feedback--what are odds of getting even a small bump in submitting mid-grade (and seemingly, I say seemingly, ungraded) cards to SGC for review, not crossover? What's your experience? One in five or one in ten or one in 50?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Sorry to ask again but didn't get much specific feedback--what are odds of getting even a small bump in submitting mid-grade (and seemingly, I say seemingly, ungraded) cards to SGC for review, not crossover? What's your experience? One in five or one in ten or one in 50?

My guess is about a 20% review bump of a half grade. I haven't done many crossovers so don't know on those. But I only get cards reviewed that are high end for the grade. I haven't done it too often.

[smtjoy]

I would say 1 in 5 is about what i have seen with mid to lower grade having a better chance than higher grade for a bump. Remember you are basically asking the same grader if they made a mistake so not likely or they would not be doing their job. If I feel real strong on a card I also do as Ron suggested I crack and submit but I am amazed how many times they come back the same grade.

Good luck

[GregMitch34]

Sorry for basic question but can they award lower grade or say "not authentic"? If they do, do they change flip or just advise you....I know with cross overs you can say "same grade or higher" but is this true with reviews?

[Bosox Blair]

Originally Posted by GregMitch34

Sorry for basic question but can they award lower grade or say "not authentic"? If they do, do they change flip or just advise you....I know with cross overs you can say "same grade or higher" but is this true with reviews?

Hi Greg,

I believe they reserve the right to do this...but if they do, they are effectively saying "we made a mistake that has cost you money" - ie. the "guarantee"...my understanding is that on any downgrade from one of their own holders, they either pay you the difference between the grades in cash, or offer you grading services of equal value, if you use grading services enough to make that worthwhile.

(BTW, I personally have never submitted for review at either SGC or PSA, but I have many cards that I bought before the latest half-grade scales that are definitely high-end for the grade. Sometime when I get the initiative, I'll submit a batch seeking at least 1/2 grade bumps. As others have said, these should be easier to get that a review of a recently-graded card, since the grader is not admitting a mistake...just using a more detailed grading scale now.)


Cheers,
Blair