Crossing over from SGC to PSA...

[sniffy5]

If you crack it and it comes back a PSA 2 or 2.5, which is entirely possible, you will be very annoyed at yourself. I would leave just it where it is.

[GregMitch34]

Similarly, I suppose, I have an SGC 3.5 CJ which looks all the world like a solid 5--even under magnification. No stains even and no hidden creases, it seems. However, it is 1/16 inch short on the width. I guess that's within limits but do they ever dock a card a grade if they can't say for sure it's trimmed--but still feel like downgrading it for this acceptable printing plant flaw? I'm at a loss to understand the grade otherwise.

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

It's definitely going into PSA...I guess question is whether to be safe and send it inside sgc holder with stipulation that it crosses over as 3 or better and then have that holder bias the review or get risky and break it out in hopes that I get a fair grade? I've had dealers tell me that PSA won't cross over from SGC without a downgrade or at all.

[sreader3]

Certainly if you are willing to accept a lower grade then the PSA crossover service might make more sense. My "don't do it" analysis was based on a straight cross, e.g., from SGC 40 to PSA 3.

The whole crossover thing is kind of crazy when you think about it. The TPG (PSA or SGC) will not crack out a card unless it will meet the minimum grade. But how can the TPG know whether the card will meet the minimum grade unless they crack it out and look at it? Chicken and egg problem if you ask me. (And I think that helps explain why PSA is so tough on crossovers).

So PSA's crossover service essentially doesn't recognize SGC cards as worthy of their assigned grade. That's fairly passive aggressive on PSA's part.

[tribefan]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

So PSA's crossover service essentially doesn't recognize SGC cards as worthy of their assigned grade. That's fairly passive aggressive on PSA's part.

It goes the same way in reverse

Originally Posted by tribefan

It goes the same way in reverse

I've never experienced that crossing over from PSA to SGC, granted I've only done it 3 times.

[JasonD08]

PSA will not bump it if you send in the SGC holder. If you are gambling on a bump then you must crack out. It isn't much over a 3 IMO. 3.5 at best.