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Old 07-16-2014, 04:29 PM
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Yes it think everyone enjoyed seeing some of them and as said before thanks for sharing. It was the title of the thread and your status as a dealer that raised the question are they coming up for sale etc. not unlike what the folks from Just Collect have been doing as of late.

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Old 07-16-2014, 04:37 PM
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Yes it think everyone enjoyed seeing some of them and as said before thanks for sharing. It was the title of the thread and your status as a dealer that raised the question are they coming up for sale etc. not unlike what the folks from Just Collect have been doing as of late.
My marketing post comes before the national about the 400 T206's I just found
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Old 07-16-2014, 04:39 PM
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Wow good stuff, good luck with the sales and nice to know you're a collector as well thanks for sharing cards from your personal collection above also.
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Wow good stuff, good luck with the sales and nice to know you're a collector as well thanks for sharing cards from your personal collection above also.
No need to put words in his mouth John. He never said he is a collector, he said they aren't for sale. Maybe they are sold or he will sell later? He and I had a few talks before he bought them and I told him just about everything that has been said (in other words) in this thread, before he acquired them. But this forum is about pre-war cards and those certainly fit the bill and seeing them is still cool.
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Old 07-17-2014, 11:59 AM
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No need to put words in his mouth John. He never said he is a collector, he said they aren't for sale. Maybe they are sold or he will sell later? He and I had a few talks before he bought them and I told him just about everything that has been said (in other words) in this thread, before he acquired them. But this forum is about pre-war cards and those certainly fit the bill and seeing them is still cool.
Who's this Leon guy, I've never heard of him before?
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Old 07-17-2014, 12:10 PM
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No need to put words in his mouth John. He never said he is a collector, he said they aren't for sale. Maybe they are sold or he will sell later?
Kinda like depends on what the meaning of is, is?
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Old 07-17-2014, 01:05 PM
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No need to put words in his mouth John. He never said he is a collector, he said they aren't for sale. Maybe they are sold or he will sell later? He and I had a few talks before he bought them and I told him just about everything that has been said (in other words) in this thread, before he acquired them. But this forum is about pre-war cards and those certainly fit the bill and seeing them is still cool.
Excuse me have I been out of line in this thread Leon? Exactly what was wrong with my response? I would very much like to know.

Also in the future I wont give folks heads up about questionable cards nor should others. We will all just assume you've had offline discussions and have it all under control. How silly of me...

Perhaps I should toss you some cash each month then you would be quick to defend me if I get my feelings hurt.

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Excuse me have I been out of line in this thread Leon? Exactly what was wrong with my response? I would very much like to know.

Also in the future I wont give folks heads up about questionable cards nor should others. We will all just assume you've had offline discussions and have it all under control. How silly of me...

Perhaps I should toss you some cash each month then you would be quick to defend me if I get my feelings hurt.

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I merely said you were putting words in his mouth, which you did. I didn't say you were out of line. You said that.
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I merely said you were putting words in his mouth, which you did. I didn't say you were out of line. You said that.
No but you somehow felt the need to hop in on something as innocent as saying "oh not for sale must be from your collection have a good one". Sure seemed like mama bird coming to the rescue to me for some reason. Which BTW you don't need to do the guy has his army of armed guards Leon I think he can handle little old me.

I agree in the future I will watch how I toss around the "C" word.

Next time I'll say something along these lines...

"Thank you Sean for showing your current or past inventory that is or isn't ready for distribution at this time. I would take sometime to perhaps warn you as dealer before you sell cards that may be questionable but understand that would be a waste of everyone's time because I'm sure you and Leon have handled this offline already."

Slow day Leon?

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Excuse me have I been out of line in this thread Leon? Exactly what was wrong with my response? I would very much like to know.

Also in the future I wont give folks heads up about questionable cards nor should others. We will all just assume you've had offline discussions and have it all under control. How silly of me...

Perhaps I should toss you some cash each month then you would be quick to defend me if I get my feelings hurt.

John

From my point of view, Leon was just pointing out that Sean never said he was a collector. Reading his website I would find it hard to believe that Sean is a collector:
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As an investor it’s also important to remember why one is buying cards. The investment and profit always has to be the goal. Get too strung up with a particular card out of personal want and attachment, and the point of investment disappears. Then a person goes from being disconnected and focused on profit, to being connected and focused on collecting for personal satisfaction. The latter can easily turn a profit into a loss with the illusory justification that the card will still be worth a lot when it is let go. Good investors don’t have those conversations with themselves; they buy and sell vintage baseball cards coldly and dispassionately.
Nothing wrong with Sean, but he makes it clear to me that baseball cards are only an investment to him. Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't consider him a collector any more than a stock broker is a collector of stocks.

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From my point of view, Leon was just pointing out that Sean never said he was a collector. Reading his website I would find it hard to believe that Sean is a collector:

Originally Posted by baseballcardsingles.com/buying
"As an investor it’s also important to remember why one is buying cards. The investment and profit always has to be the goal. Get too strung up with a particular card out of personal want and attachment, and the point of investment disappears. Then a person goes from being disconnected and focused on profit, to being connected and focused on collecting for personal satisfaction. The latter can easily turn a profit into a loss with the illusory justification that the card will still be worth a lot when it is let go. Good investors don’t have those conversations with themselves; they buy and sell vintage baseball cards coldly and dispassionately."

Nothing wrong with Sean, but he makes it clear to me that baseball cards are only an investment to him. Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't consider him a collector any more than a stock broker is a collector of stocks.
I've read that (from Sean) before, and I find it kind of an odd statement. When you choose to invest in baseball cards, especially when it's spread out over quite a few of them, there has to be somewhat of a passion for the hobby. Perhaps he isn't a collector in terms of building permanent collections, but he's at least a 'temporary' collector. Without the passion, you don't acquire enough knowledge to make the investments work. Just my thoughts - I'm sure there are many here who think they can do what Sean describes, without any passion for the hobby. But I think they are fooling themselves.
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As an investor it’s also important to remember why one is buying cards. The investment and profit always has to be the goal. Get too strung up with a particular card out of personal want and attachment, and the point of investment disappears. Then a person goes from being disconnected and focused on profit, to being connected and focused on collecting for personal satisfaction. The latter can easily turn a profit into a loss with the illusory justification that the card will still be worth a lot when it is let go. Good investors don’t have those conversations with themselves; they buy and sell vintage baseball cards coldly and dispassionately.
This made me die a little inside.
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From my point of view, Leon was just pointing out that Sean never said he was a collector. Reading his website I would find it hard to believe that Sean is a collector:


Nothing wrong with Sean, but he makes it clear to me that baseball cards are only an investment to him. Nothing wrong with that, but I wouldn't consider him a collector any more than a stock broker is a collector of stocks.
I have stated and will state again - I do not populate the content of my website. I have a guy that hits on keywords and there are many things I don't agree with, but google rankings come before grammar and proper conversation.

That is besides the point, you hit the nail on the head with your analogy - it is perfect.

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