Is Derek Jeter's autograph worth $1,000?

[Lordstan]

Carmelo,
Yes, we are splitting hairs, but isn't this discussion part of the fun of it all?

Your quote...
"Gwynn to me hands down better hitter. Intangibles, and or all around play goes to jeter."

Your stated opinion on this is exactly the reason why many, non NY centric fans think Jeter is over-rated. Given that you didn't see much of Molitor, it stands to reason that you saw even less of Gwynn. He played only 3yrs later than Molitor and in the opposite league from the Yanks. Despite that, you have been able to form the opinion that Jeter was a better all around player and had better intangibles! How? How do you judge intangibles? If you can't measure them in statistics then, I guess, you really need to see them play day in day out to judge how they play the game and how important they are to their team. So the only way someone could form your stated opinion is if they are biased and are overestimating one player's value because they are his fans.

Here are a few more non batting stat comparisons.
Gwynn won an MVP. Jeter never did. Jeter has 40 more SB. Both won 4 GG. Gwynn has a slightly higher fielding %(20th lifetime for RF), but Jeter (29th lifetime for SS) played a harder position. Jeter's WAR 72.1. Gwynn's 68.8. That means over a 20yr period Jeter accounted for 3 more wins. Not much of a difference really.

I'm not trying to prove Gwynn was better, as I think they are pretty much on even ground. I'm saying that only a Yankee fan would think that Jeter was definitely better than Gwynn, and a whole bunch of other guys from this same era. I think Jeter is a great player, but I don't think he is more special than a whole lot of players during the past 30yrs.

Also, regardless of the above, I think we all agree $1000 for his auto is crazy.

[Nyygameused]

I think people say jeter is overrated because they fail to see anything other than the ny on his chest. Trust me coming from someone who has lived in nyc his whole life (manhattan) and has seen many parts of this world, yes nyc is overrated. However, I just have to say if anyone has never gotten the chance to attend a yankees game and see what #2 truly means to us, please go within the next two or so months. Two things you have probably never seen and will never hear again will happen, Bob Sheppards "now batting for the yankees.... #2 derek jeter.... #2." As well as the final single digit yankee number ever announced for an active player. Players can become legends anywhere, but in nyc legends stand tall.

[Lordstan]

I grew up. lived a large part of my life there including going to college in NYC. I root for all NY sports teams. My father was born and raised there as well. I understand NYC very well.

I don't think Jeter is over-rated because I dislike the Yankees. I think, because he has had the advantage of being a Yankee, he is thought of more highly than he would've been had he played for virtually any other team. To me, he wasn't even the best, or most valuable, player on his team. IMHO, Rivera was both the best player on the team and the greatest ever at his position. This is coming from a non Yankee fan.
Jeter has lived a charmed life since coming to the Yanks. Evey time they won, he got the lion's share of the credit, but every time they lost it was always someone else's fault. In the 2004 ALCS, Arod batted 258 with 2 HR, 5 RBI, and SLG% of 895. Jeter hit 200 with o HR, 5 RBIs, and SLG% of 567. Despite that, somehow it was all Arod's fault that they lost to Boston. No one said anything about Jeter's performance. MR November? OK he had 2 excellent WS and 2 fantastic WS performances. How about batting 250 in 1996 WS and 148 in 2001 WS? Hmmm. People seem to forget these things when it comes to Jeter.
Of course Yankee fans love him. If he were on my team, I would love him too, but I judge performance on performance, not how much I love the guy. In NYC, Legends stand tall because it is the media capital of the world, not because they are better players than those in other towns.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by Nyygameused

I think people say jeter is overrated because they fail to see anything other than the ny on his chest. Trust me coming from someone who has lived in nyc his whole life (manhattan) and has seen many parts of this world, yes nyc is overrated. However, I just have to say if anyone has never gotten the chance to attend a yankees game and see what #2 truly means to us, please go within the next two or so months. Two things you have probably never seen and will never hear again will happen, Bob Sheppards "now batting for the yankees.... #2 derek jeter.... #2." As well as the final single digit yankee number ever announced for an active player. Players can become legends anywhere, but in nyc legends stand tall.

That is because there are 8 players that had there numbers retired two of them with the same number. Torre is number six his will be retired. Wow the last of the single digits. They retired Billy Martins number 1 that is a real legend.

[mschwade]

One of my favorite modern pieces in my collection is this vintage Derek Jeter index card signed during 1993 Spring Training.

[clutch]

Now you can literally buy the ground he walks on thanks to Steiner.


http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/07/dere...s-infield-dirt

[autograf]

Got Jeter here in Louisville when he came here with Tino Martinez who was the brother-in-law of Louisville's BB Coach, Lelo Prado. Got a ball and a mini helmet and he was very accommodating outside a bar where there were a number of people getting sigs. The $300 is just Steiner pushing the envelope and building the market higher and higher. Jeter probably charges a pretty fixed amount to sign for X amount of time. These new guys view autograph signing I think as a nuisance (at least many of them). If you'd made $200M or more during your career, you'd probably think you didn't need to sign your name, so only do it when someone's willing to pay your $30,000 for 3 hours. Anyway, he was great to us here and wish him the best of luck in retirement. I would never pay $300 for anyone's auto anymore.............

[shelly]

Ernie Banks SS 2 time Mvp On last place club lifetime BA same hr250 more.Mr Cub "Lets play two" That is a legend. $100 for an autograph.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by autograf

If you'd made $200M or more during your career, you'd probably think you didn't need to sign your name...

No. If I made $200M+ during my career, paid entirely by fans, I'd feel I owed them a little something, and would sign for free.