Saco River Auctions

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Texxxx

John
As a business owner for over 30 years, I totally believe in tar and feathering people that knowingly dont pay there bills. Mistakes happen but it is had to call this a mistake by Troy.

Bruce as fellow business owner I respectfully disagree.

I fail to see any value in airing dirty laundry or internal drama publicly. I like the board and respect Leon's rules and it's his place now. However that doesn't mean I need to pile on and agree with everything Leon says or does. I think Leon would agree with this.

I do think this could have been handled quietly and off the board with the same results or better results. In the end it's not my board and not my business so Leon can do as he pleases, just added an outside view for perspective.

Cheers,

John

[JasonD08]

+1 to what John just said. Personal issues should be handled privately and not unfairly poured over a forum you have total control of. While I feel it is appropriate to out someone who may be in danger of hurting others (in warning) either financially or physically, this was a personal business transaction and should not have been charged up publicly.

Jason

[pencil1974]

Yeah I agree with Wonka on this one. As a business owner myself too we are usually paid 30-60 days after our designs and ads have already been delivered. I guess since its a few hundred dollars I just look at that as too small of potatoes to get in a huffing match over. Just my opinion.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by pencil1974

Yeah I agree with Wonka on this one. As a business owner myself too we are usually paid 30-60 days after our designs and ads have already been delivered. I guess since its a few hundred dollars I just look at that as too small of potatoes to get in a huffing match over. Just my opinion.

Brad, you've got to come work for me! I'll pay you in cards.

Right now I work with the biggest names in retail.....oh how I would love to be paid in 30-60 days.

[Runscott]

Geez Troy. You are supposedly representing an auction house that is supposed to be a big deal - hire a secretary if you are too busy posting on forums to read email or return phone calls.

Any good businessman knows that checking emails and voicemail is critical.

[Sean1125]

Nevermind

[wonkaticket]

Sean, why edit it away? You felt the need to pile on another businessman and call him a "sleeze". I'm sure that will translate to business for you in some way.

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Geez Troy. You are supposedly representing an auction house that is supposed to be a big deal - hire a secretary if you are too busy posting on forums to read email or return phone calls.

Any good businessman knows that checking emails and voicemail is critical.

Paragon, anyone?

[Leon]

Guys-
Thanks for all of the feedback. First things first. I am going to get with Troy and have him look into the payment he says he sent on May 9th. It is still an open invoice and was never paid. It is provable so that isn't an issue. Between May 4th and May 11th I received no money from anyone. If Troy, Jeff, John or anyone else wants to see my paypal account I will gladly change the password, have us login, then change it back, to prove it. Also, if anyone doesn't know, once an invoice is paid you can't send a reminder, that option goes away. After that, we can go from there....I don't think Troy is a bad guy but some things are still not explainable. I mean, if I got 3 reminders, a phone call and an email, to something I already paid, I would go ahead and let that person know it was paid and show them where I paid. But that is just me. I understand Troy has had some personal family issues so I do understand how these things can take a back seat to more important things in life. Also, for the record the Saco banner was up until the 15th of this month....but with at least 5 attempts at getting payment, but to no avail, I had Brian take it down. I have those emails too....Thanks to thosee who believed me. Every single thing I said is true and I will gladly prove it to anyone and everyone.

ps...all of the other payments were made and verified......though a few took a few days to post..and I am going to lock this thread while Troy and I get this worked out. After that I might move it to another area because I don't think anything was done intentionally......

[Texxxx]

As far as this situation I will back off my comments. I took Leon words as the truth. To comment about it anymore would require me seeing all the facts.

As far as my opinion about publicly outing people that want pay there bill, I will continue to be on the side that says it should be done. I guess if my bills that go out where for $200-$300 it wouldn't mean much but I have single bills of $4000 - $30000 for one to two days of work. When someone fails to pay it makes me upset. If I can keep other people from losing money by spreading the word then I will. This happens all the time in my business. I know a lot of related business that has a lot of the customers as I do. We all know who want pay and we stay away from them. I understand other types of business may need to run another way. I just looked it up. I have a .005% loss rate from non payers. Show me another business model that can beat that and I will be glad to change the way I do business.

Bruce Carter

[Wite3]

Thanks for coming on Troy and I am glad we got to see and "hear" your side of the story.

Joshua

PS I agree with John about Sean's comment...sheesh!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

However that doesn't mean I need to pile on and agree with everything Leon says or does. I think Leon would agree with this.
Cheers,

John

So you disagree with him and he agrees with you? This is getting too metaphysical for me.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

So you disagree with him and he agrees with you? This is getting too metaphysical for me.

I know deep right?